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Originally Posted by H0SS

Dude what are you talking about? You didn't even really address Anchor's points.

Shields, the Strikeforce MW champion, didn't get an immediate title shot and it was obvious that he wasn't the number one contender when he shit the bed against Kampmann (but he was gifted a decision).

You completely ignored the fact that Hendo didn't get an immediate LHW title shot, even though he was the Strikeforce LHW champion AND had just been the first person to KO Fedor.

Pettis, WEC LW champion, didn't get an immediate title shot, and proved he wasn't ready when he lost his next fight to Clay Guida.

Overeem was the Strikeforce, Dream, and K1 HW champion. The fact that he didn't finish the Strikeforce HW tourney doesn't mean he lost the title. The tournament would only have crowned a new champion if Overeem had lost the belt to someone.

Condit was a WEC WW champion who didn't get an immediate title shot, and ended up losing in his UFC debut. He had to work his way up to a shot.

Scott Smith was a WEC LHW champion who didn't get an immediate title shot. He ended up losing his UFC debut fight as well.

Steve Cantwell was also a WEC LHW champion who didn't get a title shot. He came over and went 1-5 in the UFC.

Mike Pyle was also a WEC WW champion who wasn't gifted a title shot.

Hector Lombard was the AFC, CFC, and Bellator MW champion... guess what. He didn't get an immediate title shot. And he lost his debut fight to Boetsch.

History has shown that most of these B league "champions" don't fare too well when they first enter the UFC.

Luke Rockhold is not the Strikeforce MW champion. He WAS the Strikeforce MW champion. He fights in the UFC now. In the UFC, Anderson Silva is the MW champion.

I feel ya however bringing up other champions that got fucked over doesn't justify the move. I know this is an analogy far removed from subject but imagine if someone tried to use a similar approach toward justifying slavery....

Originally Posted by H0SS

There is no dispute.

2 champions 1 divison = disputed belts.
There is simply no way around it and its a problem.


As always thanks for taking the time to make such a well thought out post H0ss. You really have a stellar memory or you're just that passionate about MMA.