Originally Posted by rivethead
Munoz has been dismissed by people who don't want to see Anderson face Chris as overrated. He's been criticized by soares, Bisping, and a bunch of clowns on the internet. All of those opinions are ridiculously biased, and none of them matter, unless you're dumb enough to believe them.
Inactivity + a dedicated campaign to remove Weidman from contention by slandering a great win. It's a perfect storm of bullshit that nobody smart will get caught out in.
Back to the point 'Joel made about 'lazer being mistaken:
It doesn't matter how long you've been watching MMA, if you assume that Munoz is done after one fight, if you assume that Weidman will fade into obscurity simply because he loses to Anderson, you really don't know what you're talking about.
The longevity of your interest, the size of your DVD collection, the amount of time you spend in the gym does not always equate to understanding a goddamn thing.
Weidman is a kid. Anderson will probably beat him if they fight this year: I'd take Anderson 7 out of 10 times. But Weidman has an enormously bright future, and if he continues to apply himself and improve at the current pace he's set, he's going nowhere near obscurity. A brush with fame could cause him to flake mentally/emotionally, sure; but that's a long shot, and one that doesn't necessarily have anything to do with a potential loss to Anderson.
I think one of the best things you can say about Chris and his potential is to point out the fact that Anderson himself has said he doesn't want to fight him. Not soares, not one of the other braindeads on Anderson's staff, but the champion himself.
I think we are steering to far from what I actually said. TrustKill said that this was a dangerous fight for Weidman, I just agreed with it and pushed it a little further to reinforce the point that I think he would be better off by getting another win before his title shot:
Originally Posted by trustkill View Post
Am I the only one who thinks it's a bad idea for Chris Weidman to be fighting a monster like Anderson straight off shoulder surgery?
Not alone on that one, I can see a very realistic scenario where he loses pretty bad to Anderson, tries to bounce back with a big fight like Vitor, loses and there he goes into obscurity...
I stand by what I said, in which I dont think that scenario is impossible or even improbable. Maybe obscurity was too much of a strong word, but those 2 losses back to back would put him where Paul Harris is now, still a relavant fighter with great potential, but far from being considered a threat to the title anytime soon. Can you really argue with that? It was a hypothetical, I didnt say he will fade, just making a point that this is a risky fight for him.
And the Munoz thing, is a valid point. Im not saying Munoz is a crap fighter (I do think he was overrated, but certainly very good) but he was very close to a title fight (and carried quite a bit of hype) and now a lot of people are shitting on him. Thats a fact, people are shitting on Munoz, rightfully so or not, but they are, and that is the risk that Weidman faces. Like I said, a risky fight for Weidman.
You are making it sound like I said that if Weidman loses to Silva he will vanish, but that not what I said, at least not what I meant to say.
Now on your comment
"I think one of the best things you can say about Chris and his potential is to point out the fact that Anderson himself has said he doesn't want to fight him."
I hope that doesn't mean you think Silva is afraid to fight Weidman... I think its delusional to think that of a guy that has never lost in the UFC. Silva is the guy who wanted to fight GSP. Which in my mind has to be seen as a harder and riskier fight. Harder because I think even though GSP is 2 inches shorter then Weidman he is still a much better fighter and would pose a much bigger threat to Silva. And riskier because if Silva lost to GSP he would without a doubt never again be considered number 1 p4p, that would be GSPs forever. Not saying that fight should or shouldn't happen though.