a good debate?? lol that guy kept backtracking on shit he was saying and i was calling him on it. right from the door he turned it around and said he wasn't talking about all of mma just the ufc. he compared it to paris hilton with some retarted ass analogy, i kept trying to cut seth off because this was suppose to be mainly myself and this guy. the laughing was us laughing at his ridiculous claims, i'm starting to think you are actually that guy icecream. lol and if you feel you're assessment is right give details on the show and what you thought he said that was right and what i didn't counter.