I agree with alot of what Killer is saying, Ken never had a great UFC career, at least not the career they try to paint. In fact when Ken was at his prime in the UFC, Gracie, Frye and Coleman dominated the Octagon. diasagree about Frank Shamrock, Frank is a great fighter and has far more diverse skills than Ken.
Also, someone said if you dont think Ken is that good than fight him. Thats just stupid, The second we stop talking about a fighter, good or bad, they have no career.