you cant say the guy wins because of his reach...he beat Arlovski twice some one who fights him need to say fuck the reach grow a set of balls take him down and summit him...he got a good chin we all know that but his submission defense is lacluster.... when Vera gets his shot he will show how weak the heavyweight divison is in UFC not knocking an of the fighters. But when you make a list of the top 5 there is actually only like a top 3.
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