[gracie jui-jitsu guy]

I agree with Barnett. However, I think big Nog's stand-up isn't that good, he needs to stop training with amatuer boxers (the Cuban team) and start training with pros. You need to train with pro boxers, their style of boxing, to be successful in pro fights. Lil Nog's stand-up is way better and does indeed make the cut. I could never pick Wandy because he's just too wild a puncher, leaves himself too wide open, needs to be more technical with his offense and defense. Crocop showed us this when he took him apart. I also don't think Wandy's and Shogun's wrestling is that good. Wandy's submissions actually make the cut though, he broke Fujita's elbow with an armbar attempt. But this thread is about being really good in EVERY aspect so I can't agree about Wandy and Shogun either. Mach I'm not too familiar with. I've only seen him against Hughes and Gomi. I only know he's considered among the best lightwieghts. As long as he has what it takes in ALL aspects of the game he would make the cut though.