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thenitt · 11-22-2010, 11:49 AM

When I went to the bar to watch the fight, my buddies and I only saw the final 1.5 rounds (had hockey before hand). They are not by any means MMA fans, but did have a strong opinion from those 7.5 minutes and I agreed that we were amazed that the fight went to Rampage, but now a couple of days later I have gone back and watched the entire fight twice, both times with the sound off.

I found that this fight could have gone to anyway with the judges, including a shut-out for Machida (Not my opinion but could understand it). It really just came down to which of the 2 judges saw the fight the same. So in my opinion there could have been no wrong decision.

As for how I could have had Machida winning the first round, it was because even though Ramage was coming forward with his punches Machida was "controlling" when the action took place. Even when it looked like a punched connected, to me it seemed as if it was an evasive move and rolling off then the punch landing cleanly and making his head move. Where the leg kicks landed cleaner and to me that would score the same or more then a "rolled" punch. I also found that yes Page would initiate a clinch with Machida against the fence but it was Machida that spent most of the time in control.

I am going to go off on a bit of a tangent here so feel free to not read the rest but,

I think this fight is a perfect example as to why the 10 point system needs to be changed. I don't think it needs a complete overhaul but just a small change. I think you need to a round winner but if the round is as close as the first two rounds were in this fight then giving them something like a 9.5 to 9.0 round would work. This way if someone clearly won the round they could be rewarded with a full point advantage going into the next round but if it was close round then the gap to make up for the next round isn't so big.

You could also go to the 10-10 rounds or call for more 10-8 rounds to make the same effect but I think those would be much harder to get your head around. The 10-10 system works but in most cases I think you should be forced to say that someone one the round. The 10-8 round would create problems because of the ethos that they garner at the moment, it seems hat in order to get a judge to call a round 10-8 the loser would have to put up as much resistance as a grappling dummy.

Hope I made some points about 1) the fight and how I saw it and 2) maybe made a case for a scoring change.

Kai

11-22-2010, 11:49 AM	#33 (permalink)
thenitt Status: The MMA CSI Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 8	When I went to the bar to watch the fight, my buddies and I only saw the final 1.5 rounds (had hockey before hand). They are not by any means MMA fans, but did have a strong opinion from those 7.5 minutes and I agreed that we were amazed that the fight went to Rampage, but now a couple of days later I have gone back and watched the entire fight twice, both times with the sound off. I found that this fight could have gone to anyway with the judges, including a shut-out for Machida (Not my opinion but could understand it). It really just came down to which of the 2 judges saw the fight the same. So in my opinion there could have been no wrong decision. As for how I could have had Machida winning the first round, it was because even though Ramage was coming forward with his punches Machida was "controlling" when the action took place. Even when it looked like a punched connected, to me it seemed as if it was an evasive move and rolling off then the punch landing cleanly and making his head move. Where the leg kicks landed cleaner and to me that would score the same or more then a "rolled" punch. I also found that yes Page would initiate a clinch with Machida against the fence but it was Machida that spent most of the time in control. I am going to go off on a bit of a tangent here so feel free to not read the rest but, I think this fight is a perfect example as to why the 10 point system needs to be changed. I don't think it needs a complete overhaul but just a small change. I think you need to a round winner but if the round is as close as the first two rounds were in this fight then giving them something like a 9.5 to 9.0 round would work. This way if someone clearly won the round they could be rewarded with a full point advantage going into the next round but if it was close round then the gap to make up for the next round isn't so big. You could also go to the 10-10 rounds or call for more 10-8 rounds to make the same effect but I think those would be much harder to get your head around. The 10-10 system works but in most cases I think you should be forced to say that someone one the round. The 10-8 round would create problems because of the ethos that they garner at the moment, it seems hat in order to get a judge to call a round 10-8 the loser would have to put up as much resistance as a grappling dummy. Hope I made some points about 1) the fight and how I saw it and 2) maybe made a case for a scoring change. Kai __________________ Long Live MMA and Long Live The Nitt!!!!