Originally Posted by TN94z
I don't agree but that is your opinion. The toughness of the fighters can be said for every division. Until GSP moves up in a weight class and wins convincingly, I don't see any way he could be ranked higher than Anderson. It's not like Dana is making GSP move up. GSP has said in the past that it is just getting to hard on his body to cut to 170. Why should Anderson move down to 170? His division is 185. GSP is the one talking about moving up.
Anderson doesn't give rematches? So now you are saying that Anderson only fights who he wants to? Then why on earth would he pick Sonnen who had the best chance at beating him?
Now Anderson is a "medeocre" fighter? These guys that you are naming and trying to say are not that good in the MW division, won their fights to get to the title shot. It's not like Cote won his first fight in the UFC and then all of the sudden gets a title shot. And which of the guys that you mentioned have worked their way back to a rematch?
Leben hasn't gotten back to a rematch spot
Franklin did but look what happened.
Lutter...where is he?
Marquardt can't get back
Henderson...where is he?
Cote hasn't gotten back to a rematch spot
Leites hasn't gotten back
Maia hasn't made it back
Sonnen doesn't deserve one yet....
So the rematch talk makes no sense. Guys need to earn a rematch. And when you get completely smoked, then you must really work your way back up.
It's almost like you are saying that Anderson waives his magic wand and he is the reason these guys are losing fights.
I just don't see the logic. This sounds more like an Anderson hate thread, IMO
Please don't think I'm hating on Silva. I just believe he has had the easy road and when it coems to oppenents he "walks in the light" in regards to fighters not getting back to title contention.
You list of fighters is my point. Hendo is gone , marquardt never made it back.
I never once said he's medeocre. He's #3 on my list. The guy is a wreaking machine. You mention that nobody got back to number one contender spot and that says it all about the division. weak. Maybe i went to far with the magic wand stuff but I'm sure the whining from Soares and Silva was heard from Danasome where alone the line. Can you honestly tell me that Silva welcomed a rematch with Hendo, Marquardt, Sonnen or anybody else that poses a threat. It's just "walking in the light" when your toughest oppenents don't get a rematch. he's just plain lucky that way.
Now I know I shouldn't take waht Dana says to heart becasue he's a business man. That said...the fact that he's trying to convince Gsp to move up is a business move in itself then. I never once said Silva should move down to 170. I simply stated that he can't do that cut.
Now I also realise that Silva has more finishes. But as weight goes up..so does the finishing power. Soo theoretically Silva should ahve more finishes. All i'm saying is Gsp dominates everybody. A Silva does not. SO if being manhandled by Lutter, Hendo and Sonnen only to come back and win those fights makes you better than simply dominating every round of every fight, than Silva is better.
HW- Mir, Brock, Fedor, Cain
LHW-Shogun, Tito, Mousasi. Rampage
MW-Hendo, Sonnen, Mayhem M
WW-GSP, C Condit>Nick diaz, Fitch wonderboy?
LW-Penn, Edgar, Cerrone, pettis
Fighters I LOATH 1-BISPING