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Originally Posted by Happypants

Sports are entertainment. Without the fans and a system that allows the organizations and fighter to make money MMA would be in the same spot as wrestling. It would have solid athletes but no way to make money and thus no on really caring about it.

If people who have enough interest in MMA to regularly post on an MMA forum say LnP is a problem then it just might be a problem. It obviously if affecting the entertainment value of the spectators when they see one guy holding down another guy and not really doing much else except holding him there.

And if you don't like the ground game watch boxing? Ground was can be exciting, just not when it is a wrestler who doesn't gnp and doesn't have a submission game. The equivalent to a stand up fighter only through 1 jab and then running the entire fight.

I don't believe it's the ground game people are complaining about. It's the LNP. A fighter will take you down and stick his head in your chest to avoid getting hit and throw a useless punch once in a while when the ref asks for action. That is total horseshit. They msut be stood up when that happens.

They lay on you and ride out the clock. That's exactly what they're doing. They know it...we know it and the refs know it. They don't want to admit it but it's true.