Originally Posted by Mac
It's not the suing part I have a problem with. It's the, we are going to disban only to reform later just to accomplish this. They aren't even disbanning if that's the case.
And I'm pretty sure if I went to the owner of the company I work for and said, hey, I'm gonna need to see your books to make sure I'm getting the propper share of the pie, he would tell me to get bent.
I am just assuming they will reform right away. When they decertified in 1989 they didn't reform until 3-4 years later I think.
You can't compare this to an average joe job. If I was the owner of a small business and my 40k a year employee wanted to see my books I would tell them to piss off.
The NFL doesn't exist without elite athletes and these players have every right to fight for their piece of the pie. When both sides agree to a deal in 1993, 1998, and again in 2006 it must be working. Then somehow in 2008 the owners decide its not working and need more money...shouldn't they have to justify it somehow? What happened in those 15 years? Did they lose money? The NFL is fairly recession proof and the TV contracts are ridiculous so I don't buy any of that BS.
Originally Posted by The Return Of......
here is my thing, the owners dont have to show any of the books. they say they gave the players what they needs, they players say they didnt. someone is full of shit. i did read where the owners offered to get an independent auditor to go over things and sort it out. the players said no, they wanted there guy. i see where the owners cut down on how much they were asking........the players said no........
they claim they want to make a deal but they dont. they caught the owners with the lockout money from the tv deal and now there greedy and think they can get the world in court. a business has to make money to be sucessful. also, they have to make money to be able to afford the cost of the team. so here are the owners saying we need x, and the players saying nope no deal but i havent seen one counter offer from the players
I agree somewhat about the book showing deal. They shouldn't have to show their books unless they are trying to justify more money(which they are). That is the first I have heard of the owners suggesting an independent audit. I thought I heard that the NFLPA proposed that and the owners said no.
I completely agree about the NFLPA reaction today though. They have the boot to throat of the owners and they know it. They had no intention of coming to a deal unless all of their demands were met. We should also remember that owners didn't budge until well into this thing too. Its not like they aren't being stubborn.