Originally Posted by The Return Of......
again i disagree. if you are not good enough to make millions, and you only make 325K for a few years........then no you shouldnt be set for life. football is a game, it isnt a right to be allowed to play. if you are lucky enough to play 2 or 3 seasons in the nfl you should still have to work when you retire. sorry but the owners put up millions and millions and took risk to own a team, without them no one, not the stars nor the bench warmers would have a spot to play.
your right, the owners are not all smiles. but the players are being little bitches and wanting to get everything there way. the money aspect is settled, which is why i am confused as to you bringing that up........again.
they have agreed on how to split the money and everyone is satisfied with that. now the players are not wanting to sign for reasons that is supposed to be handled by a union. well, if you want to debate that form the union, its your rules play by them.
do you get free health care when you leave your job??? im pretty sure you have to pay for it like the rest of us unless maybe you are a government official. if they want money when they retire from football they should invest instead of blowing there money and get a freaking job when they retire.
and actually, you are wrong, the plays do stand to lose money with the loss of preseason games. see, the 9 billion shrinks even when preseaon games are lost, meaning there is not as much money to divide up, plus you start to lose some fan support which means less revenue coming in.
but its that kinda thinking that is again making me call the players little bitches. that and there interviews on the nfl network.
hell it was vander bosh from tenn, who was interviewed saying he thinks the owners tried to slip some stuff in and they were pissed about it. when they asked him what kind of stuff his reply is, ummm well i dont know i dont really understand any of this, its over my head but im sure they tried something..................
come on, you mean to tell me your going to accuse them of screwing you over but you cant say how????
The players only playing two or three years are permanetly damaging their brain and other parts of their body, they will have to live with the damage the rest of there lives to line the pockets of everyone involved owners, union agents ect. Some players, not all cannot get a job after football due to injury but most do have jobs after football and do just fine but should they not get the best possible pension they can negotiate for if it is up for debate? If you were and elite athlete with the ability to get more back from a billionaire who makes hundreds of millions off you and your fellow football players would you not try for the best possible deal? and do everything within your rights to get it?
To your point of Van Den Bosch saying he didn't have a clue, of course he doesn't these guys have attorneys and people to take care of his interests by no means this is no excuse for him to say something like that without having anything to back up his claims. I'm sure somewhere someone he is paying very well face-palmed themselves at him saying that.
One of the main points of contention in the new agreement is the amount to be set to the side for medical and pension its something like 600 million to 1 billion. this is were the players make me frustrated and upset with them. They keep saying that they are doing this for the old timers and the players that came before them but not a single retired player when asked by reporters if any players came to them about the pension and medical benefits for them they all said no. No one has came to them about what they think they would need or want but yet the players go trumpeting this as there cause. That is bull shit on the players plain and simple.
The real guys who got kinda screwed are next years rookies they still will get rich if picked in the top ten but after 4 years going into the 5th the team can pick up an option i believe (paraphrasing from what i heard earlier today)
if the team wants to keep them one more year (instead of free agency) they can then pay that player the average of the top ten players at that position if drafted eleven or later they will get the average of the 11th to 30th paid players this would really screw a guy like darrell Revis out of millions
Anyways this will all be over sometime next week