Originally Posted by Masscore
You are ignoring a few things here.
1. Liddell's takedown defense was the stuff of legends. Jones had a hard time taking down Rampage and I believe Liddell's takedown defense in his Prime was better than Rampage's current takedown defense.
2. Liddell also had the ability to get right back to his feet when he was takendown. I believe he still holds the record in the UFC for least amount of time spent on his back. Which is pretty crazy when you consider the grapplers he fought; Randleman, Ortiz, Sobral, Couture and Evans to name a few.
I think Jones would win most of the time. But Liddell is just a terrible match-up for him.
Yes, liddells tdd was great, but he didnt fight the better wrestlers of today in mma, you of all people should know that. You just listed his opponents... Rampage took chuck down in their first fight. You dont think he could stop tito, randleman(he did), or bablu's takedowns?
He had a knee injury against Bader, and Bader is a very high level wrestler to begin with.
Couture did get chuck down in their first fight and got shutdown when trying to come in with sloppy hand work in the next fights.
Evans didnt even go for the takedown and put Liddell on his back with an overhand. He didnt have the shot, follow through, and set up in his wrestling back then either. Look at his fight with Davis.
back in the day guys like matt hughes and BJ Penn, we didnt expect to see those guys spend a lot of time on there back. In came the ultra talented GSP. Jones would be able to take liddell down, or outstrike him standing.