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Originally Posted by rampage9712

Im not even a Jones fan, but this hard to imagine.

Liddell would stop JJ takedowns because he stopped tito's, horn, etc takedowns. Like there is any coloration to what Jones has to offer.

And Liddell is a better striker than Jones because KO lesser guys. Liddell may have had more power and aggression, but you cant expect Jones to KO guys like Shogun, Rampage, Evans, and Machida. Imagine what they would have done to chuck. Those guys have no comparison to the guys Chuck has fought.

Look at how Jones performed against Shogun, Rampage, and Evans... and compare that to how liddell performed against them.

Chuck was definitely at his best for the 2nd rampage fight. He was on his winning streak, facing someone who had already beat him. Its not the fact his chin degraded. Look at the shots Shogun, Rashad, and Rampage landed on him. All big power punches, with the intention to get the Ko. It was a technical error, not just his chin.

People have liddell on such a high level in their minds, but comparing him to the fighters of now, let alone Jones is silly. I would bet good money that prime liddell would lose to all of Jones' past 4 opponents.

Im not trying to bag on Liddell but you have to be realistic. I did the same thing when people were saying how prime liddell was a better striker than Anderson and that he would beat him...

Im also a huge wand fan, but realize how he would perform against the best now, even in his prime.

This kind of reminds me of how people were acting like a prime royce gracie would submit top guys left and right if he was in the UFC at that time... when he was fighting hughes...

the first rampage fight was a closer fight than people remember. chuck gassed out. the second fight, chucks chin was already gone, the evans and shogun fights chuck was just a shell of his former self