i think one of the reasons leben gets a bad rap is because of the shit talking before fights, but what people don't understand is that he's told to say a lot of that crap. remember when quarry fought franklin? rogan was interviewing quarry and asked him about why he said franklin had a weak chin and quarry said something along the lines of "i dunno, they just told me to say that." UFC wants the fighters to look like they hate each other or are just utter badasses to hype fights so 90% of the shit talked is literally shit.
except of course in the case of shamrock and tito.
5-6 in sig/av bets. I'm the Ross Pointon of Sig bets