Originally Posted by Hawkeye
ok, so normally i stay out of any discussion that has Fedor in it..AND i'm going to get flamed big time for this but i can take it and it has to be said; Hendo lost to Shields, Rampage and Silva. the common denominator in all 3 fights is there was a TITLE AT STAKE. HE lost the unification bout to quinton, a MW SF Title fight and a MW UFC title fight against arguably one of the greeatest MMA practitioners of an era. FEdor lost a nothing fight to Wurdum, a beatdown of epic proportions against bigfoot (who has been dismantled twice since) and knocked out for the first time in his career by hendo. Make no mistake, I'm not saying Hendo is the GOAT. But to insinuate Fedor did it cause it was the twilight of his career is bullshit. Fedor is 35 and is for all intensive purposes done. Hendo is 40 and has a shot at another title. This is no knock on either guy, but the facts are facts so if you dont like the guy fine, but dont say "he's no Fedor".
...So you just decided not to address the fact that Hendo had a shitload of close fights that went his way?...Ok...
Also, Fedor losing to bigfoot was a 220 pound guy losing to a guy who probably weighed close to 280 at fight time. Shoud I bring up the fact that after Dan lost to Lil Nog, Lil Nog went 1-2 in his next 2 fights including a brutal KO loss to Sokodjou?
and guess how Shields won the 185 pound title that he defended against Shields? By guillotining Robbie Lawler...not exactly something to write home about.
What's bullshit is calling a fight against Werdum a "nothing fight" because he doesn't have a title. Maybe if he would have just had to have beaten someone the calibre or Robbie Lawler, and not Overeem, it wouldn't have been so difficult. Plus the SF HW title situation was a joke anyways so your point is moot in that alone.
Oh and there is one more gift decision that Dan had go his way that I forgot to include, his decision over Big Nog, who completely owned him in the rematch. Lil Nog also subbed him with ease. So yes, Hendo did knock out Fedor late in his career, but its easy to tell that early in their careers (pre Dan-Trt), Fedor was the one having much more success...
and guess what...IT'S A DISCUSSION ON WHO IS THE BEST EVER. So of coarse I am going to include Fedor's name...and to me it's quite easy to tell that Fedor isn't as passionate about MMA as he used to be. He is someone who fought because he HAD to, because it was pretty much his only path in life, or at least by far the most lucrative. Once he became wealthy and started a family, his interest in fighting started to slowly decline imo. Yet Hendo is looking as good as ever and even better at the age of 41, and he takes TRT regularly. What a coincidence...