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Originally Posted by rivethead  You're really trying to make this work, and it just isn't logical.
For instance, lets say that Fedor came to the UFC, and he wanted to fight Georges, because Georges was once considered the GOAT. It would be bullshit then, and it's bullshit now.
It would even be bullshit for Fedor to have come to the UFC and not want to fight Cain right now, but to want to fight Anderson. Because Fedor is bigger than Anderson. So regardless of how you want to spin it, you've still got a bigger fighter picking a fight with a smaller fighter who has shown no interest in taking it. It's a vanity fight, and it's bullshit. |
Why are you still pretending that GSP has no interest when there are other videos that suggest otherwise? If GSP didn't want this fight he could pull a Jon Jones and say hell no to Joe Silva. The fight simply wouldn't happen in the same manner that Silva is saying hell no to Jon Jones. You know how GSP is. He absolutely will not look beyond his current opponent and he shouldn't but regardless he has expressed equal interest. Please don't make it sound like GSP is being bullied into fighting Silva.
If GSP wins then watch the post fight against Condit (we all know what Rogan is going to ask him). I will bet just about anything he publically goes on record on his quest to fight Silva.
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Originally Posted by rivethead Belcher is unranked. He's not even top 10 right now. Weidman is ranked. He's the #1 contender. There is a huge difference in a #1 contender not wanting to fight an unranked fighter but accepting a fight with a top 5 contender in the division and a champion not fighting anyone at all while he waits for a fighter in a lower division to determine if he'll fight or not. |
If Silva didn't wait this fight which was suppose to happen after he beat Sonnen and GSP beat Shields would never happen. If those two are going to do this they need to do it while both are on a winning streak. A fight with either of the two if either lost wouldn't be as marketable.
Its now or probably never and make no mistake fans want to see this fight.
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Originally Posted by rivethead If Georges did this with Condit, or even Nick Diaz so he could wait to fight Ben Henderson nobody would defend him. |
If GSP and Ben Henderson were on a tear hell I would want to see it especially with their wrestling and striking backgrounds. Although I will admit I would want to see Nick Diaz vs GSP more because he is a former champion with a proven track record. I haven't even bothered to look this up but does GSP have more title defenses than Diaz has fights? I am guessing no.
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Originally Posted by rivethead And nobody would be 100% correct, because it's indefensible. Because vanity fights are bullshit, regardless of how much money they're worth. You missed the point of the Charlie Sheen reference. It wasn't about Charlie. It was about creating a spectacle for the sake of sales that isn't good for the sport as a whole. |
It wouldn't be any more of a spectable than Couture Vs Machida and James Toney (which by far was much worse)? Hell Fedor fighting Hong Man Choi and Zulu was also bullshit but it was fun to watch (vanity or freak fight).
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Originally Posted by rivethead Bigger fighters are supposed to beat up smaller fighters. It's kind of like in a geometry test where they tell you the measurement of an angle. They call that a given.
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So what would be the purpose in Silva fighting Jon Jones or do you disagree with these two fighting. Would this not be a vanity fight?