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Originally Posted by rivethead  Frankie is a better grappler, has better striking, and better transitions. And he doesn't rely on size. |
Technically speaking... maybe, but Jones is much more dangerous of finishing both standing and on the ground. His opponents fear getting taken down. He has some good pop behind his strikes...
so P4P= Skill?
So lets put someone like Bisping ahead of guys like Hendo and JDS while were at it...
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Originally Posted by rivethead Focusing on wins is how incredibly bad rankings actually ranked Fitch as p4p at one point--given that he's stunningly one dimensional and an enormous WW who routinely employs size to win...it's a terrible premise.
Focus purely on skills, with an understanding of how they'd be employed with or without a size advantage, and you'd be closer to a traditional, purist definition. Which differs tremendously from the current flavor-of-the-month MMA definition.
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If a fighter is able to make weight, their shouldnt be an issue. Why just focus on size, but not focus on other talents like speed, power, chin, cardio ability, etc.
Jones, GSP, Anderson, and Cruz are all pretty big for their weight class... lets throw them all out of the P4P discussion as well.
Fitch is actually one of the more skilled MMA fighters out there... He avoids getting submitted because he has a good BJJ game, and can land his takedowns because he has solid technical striking to set up his takedowns. He doesnt get KTFO in every fight...
But he doesnt have the power, speed, explosiveness, reflexes of some fighters.