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Old 12-11-2012, 12:03 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by goodtimes View Post
This fight makes the most sense for both guys; gives Rory a huge name and avenges his only loss, while a win for Condit puts him right back up there in title contention.
I still don't have Rory solidly ranked as a top 10 fighter, I don't know that a win for Carlos would put him anywhere but where he's currently at...and that's a fight or three away from a rematch.

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Originally Posted by Rise View Post
So instead you want him to move up a weight class when he has all kinds of good fights because he walks around at 200lbs like alot of the WW do and you want him to fight a guy who cuts to 185... yeah that makes sense
Rory doesn't walk around at 200, that's camp weight, when he's already trimmed down. It's likely he walks around a bit heavier than that.

Much like the incessant questions from hack MMA press about him fighting Georges someday, the concern for him to move up is premature at this point. He hasn't derailed any title shots. He hasn't beaten any solid top 10 opponents. But if he's not interested in fighting Georges, he's going to either become a spoiler, or he's going to need to move. He's said that himself.

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Originally Posted by VimyRidge View Post
Don't most MW walk around at 215+. Isn't Silva is 220+. 200 seems very small for walk around weight for MW.
a few common terms:
Walk around weight is what fighters weigh when they're not in shape. They're not training overtly for a fight. Some fighters, like Georges, stay in shape all year round. Some fighters, like Anderson and rampage, do not.

Training weight is what fighters weigh in camp before they begin their actual weight cut right before the fight. A good example of this is when Rory posted a pic of himself at "200 and trim" mid camp. But it's not necessarily what a fighter cuts from.

Cutting weight is the weight a fighter loses right before the fight, and regains via rehydration.

Cageweight is what a fighter weighs during the actual bout, after they've regained the weight they've cut.

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Originally Posted by 1inthechamber View Post
I doubt many ww walk at 200lbs, even gsp I believe walks around 190lbs. What's the point in him detailing potential contenders if he's not gonna challenge for the title ? Just a cowardice thing imo. You feel comfortable and confident in your skillset to beat up on smaller opponents, why not test yourself where you can go for a title?
points:
  • walk around weight is not the weight fighters cut from, and is often much, much more than cageweight.
  • Rory hasn't detailed any potential challengers yet, so you're making much ado about nothing.
  • Lack of interest isn't always cowardice, so ease up on the keyboard cowboy stuff. For instance, I'm one of the people who think Anderson is ducking Weidman. I do not for a moment think he is a coward, or that he's afraid of Chris.
  • The bulk of modern MMA is comprised of fighters looking for a physical advantage over their opponents. It's what's put Dolce on the map. Rory is no different.

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Originally Posted by Rise View Post
GSP is said to be walking around at 195 he says he could go higher but doesn't like cutting to much weight. Dolce claims Hendricks dropped 42lbs (212) for his fight against Kampmann. There are other WW's that look similar in size to Rory.
That's not a cut. That's the difference between walk around weight and the weight he cut to in order to weigh in. Between those two numbers is a six week camp where he shed the bulk of that 42 lbs. I'd be amazed if Hendricks actually cut much more than 20lbs.

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