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killerinstinct
08-19-2006, 04:43 AM
who would win if these two submission specialists fought one another?My money would be on Babalu.

Masscore
08-19-2006, 05:26 AM
Since this fight would go to the ground and come down to who is the better submissionist, as much as I dont want to. Im gonna go with Lister, he is far more accomplished when it comes to submissions. How many things has he won? They listed like 5 or 6 titles or championships he won last night.

Intellectual
08-19-2006, 09:50 AM
Babalu

killerinstinct
08-19-2006, 09:53 PM
It would be hard for the other to pull off a submission on the other so I think it would come down to who has the better wrestling and who's on top for most of the fight.I think Babalu would definitely have the edge in the stand up.

tylerunemployed
08-20-2006, 01:22 AM
dean's stand up in his last fight was awful

killerinstinct
08-20-2006, 03:48 AM
dean's stand up in his last fight was awful
his standup wasn't the problem it was his conditioning.

AJL416AZ
08-21-2006, 01:30 AM
his conditioning was pretty bad, but his wrestling's not too great. and his standup had holes, he kept his hands low and his chin out. got rocked a few times by Sasaki.

Renato

killerinstinct
08-21-2006, 03:36 AM
his conditioning was pretty bad, but his wrestling's not too great. and his standup had holes, he kept his hands low and his chin out. got rocked a few times by Sasaki.

Renato
he kept his hands low b/c he was tired.

CHUCKtheCHAMP
08-23-2006, 01:54 AM
Babalu Would Win.. It Would Be Hard For Either Guy To Subb. Eachother And In The Stand Up Babalu Would Win For Sure!!

William Cutting
08-23-2006, 03:36 AM
I think Sobral would keep it standing and get the victory either by KO/TKO or decision.

I f it was in a pure grappling match I would go with Lister but not in MMA.

Beatts35
08-24-2006, 05:02 PM
Lister is one of my Favorite fighters, The boogeyman is great, But we really havn't seen anything impressive with his stand up. Hopefully his cardio gets up to snuff at 185 (i guess he's there so he doesn't have to fight Tito @ 205) I think if they fought tomorrow Sobral would win 7/10 times. But i think Lister is well on his way to flipping that figure.

rugoatee
08-31-2006, 03:24 AM
Lister is one of my Favorite fighters, The boogeyman is great, But we really havn't seen anything impressive with his stand up. Hopefully his cardio gets up to snuff at 185 (i guess he's there so he doesn't have to fight Tito @ 205) I think if they fought tomorrow Sobral would win 7/10 times. But i think Lister is well on his way to flipping that figure.
Would give Lister a slight advantage in BJJ but Babalu has better wrestling and has far superior stand up. Also has the experience factor. Lister has not faced the level of opponents that Babalu has beat.

ozzy2525
09-01-2006, 08:07 PM
yes babalu has better standup but he probably be stupid and take lister down like he did with chuck everyone thought that he would go for the takedown and the idiot comes at a counter puncher swinging babalu is a total idiot and everyone thinks that babalu is some submission god and that he can tap anyone out ill saythis i said it in another therad babalu cant even tap tito out how is he going to tap lister out lister can tap babalu out babalu cant tap lister out

paintstik
09-02-2006, 03:08 AM
yes babalu has better standup but he probably be stupid and take lister down like he did with chuck everyone thought that he would go for the takedown and the idiot comes at a counter puncher swinging babalu is a total idiot and everyone thinks that babalu is some submission god and that he can tap anyone out ill saythis i said it in another therad babalu cant even tap tito out how is he going to tap lister out lister can tap babalu out babalu cant tap lister out


Woah there buddy...Take a breath and use some punctuation. Calling Babalu an idiot is pretty ridiculous too.

And when did Tito and Babalu ever fight? That's right...Never.

Also...Who was the last person to take Chuck down without eating a multitude of hard punches to the face? Babalu looked pretty lost and it was not smart to try and stand with Chuck (especially chasing after him when he shoulda backed off and regrouped), but you can't just shoot in without setting it up on a guy like chuck or it's knee or kick to the head and lights out even faster than it really happened.

ozzy2525
09-02-2006, 03:17 AM
Woah there buddy...Take a breath and use some punctuation. Calling Babalu an idiot is pretty ridiculous too.

And when did Tito and Babalu ever fight? That's right...Never.

Also...Who was the last person to take Chuck down without eating a multitude of hard punches to the face? Babalu looked pretty lost and it was not smart to try and stand with Chuck (especially chasing after him when he shoulda backed off and regrouped), but you can't just shoot in without setting it up on a guy like chuck or it's knee or kick to the head and lights out even faster than it really happened.
Ima saying that in another thread they said that babalu would tap tito in the first round and i dont think he can tap tito out listers teammate and i dont think he can tap lister either still he went at chuck swinging like hes trying to knock him out and after he got hit he remembered shoot and chuck knocked him out

AJL416AZ
09-02-2006, 03:25 AM
well no shit he cant tap the ADCC absolute champion in the first. but tito is not lister, being someones teammate doesnt even make you anything similar in ability

kaisq11
09-05-2006, 12:34 AM
Renato Sobral