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kaiz77
09-29-2007, 08:56 PM
These are some pictures of my 2nd submission fight in Rochester, MI. The match went extremely well...and it came out as a draw due to the fact that they dont score the matches here (amateur)....but it def would have been a win for me with regular scoring....my plan was to work a very aggressive guard (bottom game)..and set up submissions from there...I had a couple of triangles nearly locked up, was able to sweep him, choke attempts, and a nasty wristlock (of doom) sunk that collapsed his hand to his forearm (definate ligament damage...still..no tap.. (people are stupid in amatuer fights...you almost have to choke them out to surpass their egos)...but it went extremely well!!!....next event...NAGA OHIO tournament!!! cant wait!!

here is a link to the album....tell me if there is any problems viewing them...(my first time trying to post pics....

ohh...yeah...I'm the one in the gray rashguard.... (the white guy..lol)

http://s229.photobucket.com/albums/ee222/kaiz77/

and also check out the pic labeled fist choke....I have a fist in his neck...and other arm wrapped around his head (not guillotine wrap..other way) causing the pressure for the choke, leg up to get more power......if your fighting low level....try it out....ive put out a couple people with it.....its easy to defend but occasionally worth a shot....at least it may be an annoyance and possibly cause a slip up....until you regain guard

Noob
09-29-2007, 09:20 PM
http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee222/kaiz77/wristlock.jpg



http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee222/kaiz77/triangle2.jpghttp://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee222/kaiz77/triangle.jpghttp://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee222/kaiz77/sweep.jpghttp://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee222/kaiz77/standup.jpg

Noob
09-29-2007, 09:21 PM
http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee222/kaiz77/maintainingguard.jpghttp://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee222/kaiz77/jumpingguard.jpghttp://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee222/kaiz77/fistchoke.jpghttp://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee222/kaiz77/ending.jpghttp://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee222/kaiz77/frontchoke.jpg

Noob
09-29-2007, 09:22 PM
http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee222/kaiz77/breakingdownposture.jpghttp://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee222/kaiz77/armdrag.jpg




Posted them for you.



These are Kaiz77, not me.

Kimuras"R"Us
09-29-2007, 09:23 PM
These are some pictures of my 2nd submission fight in Rochester, MI. The match went extremely well...and it came out as a draw due to the fact that they dont score the matches here (amateur)....but it def would have been a win for me with regular scoring....my plan was to work a very aggressive guard (bottom game)..and set up submissions from there...I had a couple of triangles nearly locked up, was able to sweep him, choke attempts, and a nasty wristlock sunk that collapsed his hand to his forearm (definate ligament damage...still..no tap.. (people are stupid in amatuer fights...you almost have to choke them out to surpass their egos)...but it went extremely well!!!....next event...NAGA OHIO tournament!!! cant wait!!

here is a link to the album....tell me if there is any problems viewing them...(my first time trying to post pics....

ohh...yeah...I'm the one in the gray rashguard.... (the white guy..lol)

http://s229.photobucket.com/albums/ee222/kaiz77/

and also check out the pic labeled fist choke....I have a fist in his neck...and other arm wrapped around his head (not guillotine wrap..other way) causing the pressure for the choke, leg up to get more power......if your fighting low level....try it out....ive put out a couple people with it.....its easy to defend but occasionally worth a shot....at least it may be an annoyance and possibly cause a slip up....until you regain guard

Sounds like you did pretty well. Congratulations. That sucks they don't have scoring I have never heared of that before. Anyway, good luck at the Naga Ohio tourney my man!

kaiz77
09-29-2007, 10:16 PM
thanks so much......now if only I could do that....

ufobydeath
09-29-2007, 11:01 PM
Looks great man, congrats! No scoring? Sounds really weird, why don't they have that over there?
Anyways, good luck over at the Naga! Kick ass for us man!

kaiz77
09-29-2007, 11:28 PM
Why there isnt any scoring I couldn't really tell you.....
This took place at Superkicks for america...Rochester, MI....
there are usually just a couple of submission matches, then 10 er so MMA fights...(which they dont score either)..lol...i dunno....

Its just the only place around for grappling that I have found....and its still an hour and 15 minutes away from me in Monroe, MI....lol.....there is nothing in my area whatsoever....it sucks...

ufobydeath
09-29-2007, 11:34 PM
I remeber reading the SW rules for matches here in Sweden and they had a pretty extensive scoring system:

http://www.submissionwrestling.net/rules.asp

Why not adapt those (exepting the "no neck-cranks")?

kaiz77
09-30-2007, 12:21 AM
That would be awesome......the place is run by an old kickboxing champion kerry roop... he is the ref for all the fights and he runs the joint.......
Why he doesnt hire judges I do not know.....
the rules for submission matches are....

no heelhooks....and the obvious eye gouging..etc.

thats about it....there is slamming and whatnot....but no point system....wish there was...
fighters pick round length....3 threes...2 fives.....or 1 ten....
mine was 3 threes...

ufobydeath
09-30-2007, 12:30 AM
Maybe he's lazy? Maybe he's broke (still, I'm guessing that if swedish MA orgs, who by the way are poor as hell, can afford judges then he sure can) but I've never liked the concept that any fight going the distance will be a draw...

For what it's worth you can show him the points system and plant some seeds... maybe they'll take root, I don't know

kaiz77
09-30-2007, 12:41 AM
worth a shot......he just seems like one of those guys that just wants to provide good experience and doesnt like to see the hurt of people when they lose...lol...i dunno.....hes makes it all like a big family friendly thing......Hes a good guy and does a lot for the people that fight/attend....but man...the people there want to COMPETE....not just participate in showcased sparring...

ufobydeath
09-30-2007, 01:02 AM
Exactly! It's a nice thought and all but if he wants some kind of family friendly exhibitions he should probably go for wrasslin' :\
I mean I always try to have a great time with my opponent (as long as he isn't an asshole) but I'm fighting to win. Also, why would you let someone lose by sub and not by decision? If anything a decision seems like a "better way" to lose :confusedsmilie:

In any case I don't see why he's so worried about people losing, cause I've always seen losing as an incentive to train harder; you tap me out and then watch me train my ass off!

kaiz77
09-30-2007, 01:04 AM
Exactly....I dunno man..

pa99fighter
09-30-2007, 08:30 AM
I know the owner of Naga and I might fight in the one in new jersey or new hampshire I forgot where it was

NixHex
09-30-2007, 08:45 AM
Congrats on your match, wish they'd a given you a definite outcome... but as long as you feel good about your performance that's all that matters. Good luck at NAGA, let us know how it goes.

kaiz77
10-01-2007, 06:34 AM
You know the owner????.....man you gotta get me a free t-shirt or somethin...lol......I wear a medium...:grinsmile1:

bezeau24
11-19-2007, 04:48 AM
TEAM KAISER BABY LOL. u could atleast posted the pick of your sweet ass corner men lol

southsider
11-19-2007, 05:53 AM
That's a huge sig man