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Clint
10-04-2007, 03:20 PM
Joey is a douche.

Now that I've covered that subject onto my thoughts:
* Did anyone else think it was maybe a bad idea to bring wings, fried shrimp, and french fries to guys who are trying to make weight for a fight that could happen at pretty much any time?

* From the looks of the preview, Hughes is going to push his guys too hard because he's pissed that they lost and it's gonna break some of the other guys.

Tick
10-04-2007, 04:37 PM
Joey is a douche.

Now that I've covered that subject onto my thoughts:
* Did anyone else think it was maybe a bad idea to bring wings, fried shrimp, and french fries to guys who are trying to make weight for a fight that could happen at pretty much any time?

* From the looks of the preview, Hughes is going to push his guys too hard because he's pissed that they lost and it's gonna break some of the other guys.

Yea, Joey is a douche... At the same time I can understand going insane from the camera's etc... Yet I think after a week you would be used to it. So is Joey going to be opening his own BJJ school up becasue Matt will no longer have him teaching at theres?

Hughes bringing in all the fried food did seem kind of weird, but I guess it is a good change of pace from sushi. That could just be the farmboy in matt... Mama always probable made the best damn fried chicken!

As per the fight... *possible spoiler below so beware!*

Was that guilitine really in deep? I thought it kind of looked like he could of pulled out, like it sort of looked like he just froze and didnt no what to do. Just my thoughts of course.

Bobcat1
10-04-2007, 06:05 PM
I was kind of surprised the sub was so quick. He didn't seem to be making any effort to counter the guillotine.

Clint
10-04-2007, 06:13 PM
Yeah I think he got caught and then froze. A guillotine takes a few moments before you are gonna pass out so he had to time to fight it but he panicked.

Bobcat1
10-04-2007, 06:25 PM
Blocking a standing guillotine is pretty basic, too. I was like.... Jeez, I could've done better than that!

Krazikarl
10-04-2007, 07:27 PM
He looked really really nervous the whole fight. NO confidence at all. Hes only had 3 pro fights, so maybe its not that surprising. I'd say that he just mentally froze.

Bobcat1
10-04-2007, 07:59 PM
Yeah, he did look nervous. The camera's must of got to him.

Gmunit
10-04-2007, 08:22 PM
that guillotine was slow even in Fast Forward

Billy choked big time

Bobcat1
10-04-2007, 09:36 PM
That's kind of wierd, if you ask me.

I mean, my first fight was in an auditorium in front of a few hundred people, and, while I was nervous the first few moments, the second I got hit, the only thing on my mind was the fight and how to finish the fight without getting my head knocked off. It was like a switch went off in my head. There could have been naked ring-girls on the apron and I wouldn't have even noticed them.

The TUF cage is kind of an "in-house" sort of thing, so you'd think there'd be no pressure at all, even with the cameras present.

thumper
10-04-2007, 09:52 PM
No pressure......... with millions of people watching on tv, a 6 figure contract on the line and youve been stuck in a house with no outside connection for the last two weeks?

I think that is a LOT of pressure myself. a bit more than a handful of people in an auditorium. Can't really compare those two me thinks.

ufobydeath
10-04-2007, 09:57 PM
Joey is a huge pussy.

Also, what the fuck was up with the guillotine?! It wasn't even tight! All he'd've had to do was pop his head out...

Gurry
10-04-2007, 10:16 PM
He shulda gone Silva on his ass, hooked a leg, elevated, slam and broken shoulder "a la" sakuraba. But yeah, serra comes off like sucha prick and i dun think its editing either. LOL hughes is the man, u cant help but think hughes is doing all this to prove to the world that hes a nice guy...and so far its working! WAR HUGHES

Rufio
10-04-2007, 11:03 PM
Matt Hughes keeps reminding me of Jonathan Kent on the show Smallville mixed in with every movie football coach ever all rolled into one. It's really making me like him. And yes I know he's an asshole when he's interviewed about fights. He just comes off as inspiring on this show though. But that's the magic of editting.

Jellypig
10-05-2007, 12:30 AM
Matt Hughes keeps reminding me of Jonathan Kent on the show Smallville mixed in with every movie football coach ever all rolled into one. It's really making me like him. And yes I know he's an asshole when he's interviewed about fights. He just comes off as inspiring on this show though. But that's the magic of editting.I actually don't really mind Matt Hughes. I know he can be a dickwad but I can tolerate it. The editing is doing him wonders right now. And Joey is a huge pussy. Even with his doubts and such about fighting in the UFC, I was still quite surprised he just went out and threw his life away like that.

I can understand the camera ordeal and shit but he didn't even try to stick it out. I loved when that one guy just ripped into him for leaving. That was some great shit. I understand other reasons why Serra didn't want him training people, because honestly, who wants to be trained by a quitter?

FFFRpickup
10-05-2007, 01:06 AM
Yea, Joey is a douche... At the same time I can understand going insane from the camera's etc... Yet I think after a week you would be used to it. So is Joey going to be opening his own BJJ school up becasue Matt will no longer have him teaching at theres?

Hughes bringing in all the fried food did seem kind of weird, but I guess it is a good change of pace from sushi. That could just be the farmboy in matt... Mama always probable made the best damn fried chicken!

As per the fight... *possible spoiler below so beware!*

Was that guilitine really in deep? I thought it kind of looked like he could of pulled out, like it sort of looked like he just froze and didnt no what to do. Just my thoughts of course.


if the cameras was the reason for joey quiting i understand. i worked in a casino for three years...when employees just started they couldn't handle the thousands of cameras watching them and about 150 people quit within a week!. about 30 people quit after their first day! people quit on their first day because of the cameras! BUT i think joey just didn't want to be their and fight....so i do feel he's a panzee.

The food thing with hughes was wierd...hughes thought he was the better man for bring food....kinda childish.

as for the fight..i didn't seee it..so, no comment.

jkilla374
10-05-2007, 01:12 AM
I'm a serra fan, so take this with a grain of salt:

My thoughts on Episode 3:

We all thought Hughes was in the head of Serra early in the show. Now it appears as if Serra is in Hughes' head as well. Hughes is saying he can't stand Serra, just tries to ignore him, etc. Hughes even thought that he was pretty great for bringing fried food to his guys when Serra didn't bring his guys anything.

Also, Hughes' idea of coaching in the past two episodes has seemed to be to tell his fighter how great they are and how badly they are going to beat up their opponent. It also looks as if in the future, now Hughes will coach by simply pushing his team too hard for no reason.

L. Ron Hubbard
10-05-2007, 01:43 AM
Joey is a douche.

Now that I've covered that subject onto my thoughts:
* Did anyone else think it was maybe a bad idea to bring wings, fried shrimp, and french fries to guys who are trying to make weight for a fight that could happen at pretty much any time?

* From the looks of the preview, Hughes is going to push his guys too hard because he's pissed that they lost and it's gonna break some of the other guys.


It seems obvious that Joey is dealing with some pretty depressive alien souls clouding his life choices. The body of his mind is being ravaged by foreign invaders.

ufobydeath
10-05-2007, 01:44 AM
It seems obvious that Joey is dealing with some pretty depressive alien souls clouding his life choices. The body of his mind is being ravaged by foreign invaders.

Yeah, Xenu's sure got his balls in a vicegrip

sandywh
10-05-2007, 02:01 AM
Joey deserves any negative thing that happens to him. It is a shit thing to do to a guy that I'm sure pulled a string or two to get you on the show. He went out of his way to talk him off the ledge, twice! Then Dana did it. In the past Dana would of told the fighter to stop being a pussy and deal with it, but Dana was genuinely being nice to Scarolla. When Serra told him that if he left, he would be giving up not only the biggest break ever in his career, but he would lose his best friend, and his job. All for some trim? He is a douche, and Serra gave the guy a lot more rope than any other TUF coach ever would have. Editting or not, Joey leaving is disgusting, I hope when they do the "Where Are They Now?" for this show, Joey is working as a dishwasher in some pizzaria somewhere.

On to the fight. Why would you stand up while in a guilotene? That was lesson number two in JJ class (lesson 1= don't leave neck exposed). Billy not only choked, he gave up. He had no idea what to do once he got shot on. As soon as that happened all of his trainning went out the window and he was nothing more than a heavybag.

Weirdharold
10-05-2007, 02:30 AM
I hope Joey's girlfriend was cheating on him, then breaks up with him after the show for being such a complete block headed, infantile, pussy snot, shitheaded wuss...

As for Miles, I feel bad for him. He definitely froze. Who can say whether it will happen to them or not. Maybe Hughes made a mistake choosing him to fight when he was so heavy. Maybe dropping the weight effected his spirit and sapped his strength - maybe it was those chicken wings and fries...

It is an interesting season.... what if, in the end, Serra knocks Hughes out?

jkilla374
10-05-2007, 02:44 AM
what if, in the end, Serra knocks Hughes out?

If?

virtualpurple
10-05-2007, 03:07 AM
I just hope they shake hands and go their seperate ways.

Matt Serra has always came across as a class act up he started spouting off about Matt Hughes

And Matt Hughes needs to quit trying to prove that he's the better man, its not his forte.

I like it much better when there's no heat between the coaches ala the first two TUF seasons. Everyone acts alot classier and the only people that end up looking like douchebags are a few of the fighters (see Bobby Southworth)

sandywh
10-05-2007, 07:50 AM
I just hope they shake hands and go their seperate ways.

Matt Serra has always came across as a class act up he started spouting off about Matt Hughes

And Matt Hughes needs to quit trying to prove that he's the better man, its not his forte.

I like it much better when there's no heat between the coaches ala the first two TUF seasons. Everyone acts alot classier and the only people that end up looking like douchebags are a few of the fighters (see Bobby Southworth)I'd have to say that win or lose that Serra will offer his hand to Hughes. However, I don't see Hughes doing the same. I see Hughes dissing Serra if he wins and insulting Serra if Serra wins.

ronin
10-05-2007, 08:01 AM
Joey is a douche.

Now that I've covered that subject onto my thoughts:
* Did anyone else think it was maybe a bad idea to bring wings, fried shrimp, and french fries to guys who are trying to make weight for a fight that could happen at pretty much any time?

* From the looks of the preview, Hughes is going to push his guys too hard because he's pissed that they lost and it's gonna break some of the other guys.


Yeah I think he got caught and then froze. A guillotine takes a few moments before you are gonna pass out so he had to time to fight it but he panicked.

Well said on all above...

Also anyone notice that Hughes trainer a little to hand friendly with Billy.:lovesmilie4:

virtualpurple
10-05-2007, 08:57 AM
I'd have to say that win or lose that Serra will offer his hand to Hughes. However, I don't see Hughes doing the same. I see Hughes dissing Serra if he wins and insulting Serra if Serra wins.


Yeah, I really feel like there's a good chance that Hughes is going to prove Serra right whether he wins or loses.

Raiders18
10-05-2007, 09:19 AM
Pete Sell has a weird shaped head, and Joey's a bitch and a douchebag.

TookaChinchilla
10-05-2007, 09:45 AM
I'm glad Joey is off the show, couldn't stand that guy's whining. Grats to him for ruining a once in a lifetime opportunity.

Jellypig
10-05-2007, 12:22 PM
I just hope they shake hands and go their seperate ways.

Matt Serra has always came across as a class act up he started spouting off about Matt Hughes

And Matt Hughes needs to quit trying to prove that he's the better man, its not his forte.

I like it much better when there's no heat between the coaches ala the first two TUF seasons. Everyone acts alot classier and the only people that end up looking like douchebags are a few of the fighters (see Bobby Southworth)It's a reality show. If everyone is on good terms and all happy in candy land, then it makes a really boring show, even with the fights. I like when there are two coaches that hate each other, it makes things interesting.

virtualpurple
10-06-2007, 02:01 AM
It's a reality show. If everyone is on good terms and all happy in candy land, then it makes a really boring show, even with the fights. I like when there are two coaches that hate each other, it makes things interesting.


Did TUF 1 and 2 bore you? For me they were arguably the best seasons.

ufobydeath
10-06-2007, 02:40 AM
Did TUF 1 and 2 bore you? For me they were arguably the best seasons.

They probably had the deepest talent pool but all of those competitions... I mean, pulling your opponent's socks off? :dry:

OMNIpotus
10-06-2007, 03:12 AM
Uhm, I would like to Right Guard Challenge that statement.

ufobydeath
10-06-2007, 03:36 AM
Uhm, I would like to Right Guard Challenge that statement.

Besides TUF 4 :\

The majority of good TUF guys were from earlier seasons

virtualpurple
10-06-2007, 05:08 AM
Oh no doubt, the competetions really bordered around being a little G-A-Y.

I can only imagine what the fighters had to say about the challenges that got taken out in editing.

terriblet
10-06-2007, 05:14 AM
Billy choked almost as bad as Trigg choked on that 1/2 gallon of cum that was unleashed on him by the rest of the crew @ TAGG RADIO last nite!!! And Joey has 2 B the biggest pussy whipped sniveler in the history of MMA!! I hope his ole'lady(of 6 whole months)left his ass 4 being such a little bitch on TV in front of millions of people,so he had 2 spank his lil'smokie again,like he did the whole time he was on the show.That would've been f***ing great if one of their secret cameras would've caught him on tape poundin'his pud!!!! Ha LOL!!!!!! :laughing2:

MIKE DE GIACOMO
10-06-2007, 07:06 AM
where would the show be without a cocktail or 2?
Steriods more homeruns? MORE FANS WATCH.
Cocktails and drama ! MORE FAnS wannna watch
:dancingsmile:

Boo
10-06-2007, 03:11 PM
I don't think a little fried food one night as a treat is going to make some big difference in these guys performance. If their weight is way too high, then they should have enough discipline to pass them up.

Doing shots is a lot more likely to effect someone's performance.

DFD149
10-10-2007, 09:39 PM
Did Billy actually have the balls to say he was the best wrestler in the house minutes after being humiliated? Amazing.