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Jarico
10-15-2007, 04:45 PM
Does anyone in here lift regularly?


I began lifiting 18 months ago after 2 surgeries (ACL/MCL tear and Severed Ulnar Nerve) and have put on about 25 lbs, but recently I have had SEVERE pains in my wrist, elbow and knee (not the one I had surgery on). I stretch weekly, do cardio 2x weekly, and lift 3x weekly. I am only 25 so I really hope its not my age. I have tried wraps incase of tendonitus and icy hot, neither helps. Any suggestions the only thing i can think of is that i put on too much muscle too fast. I am only taking Muscle Milk no other supplements, my lifts have gone up signifigantly in the 18 months could that be it?

Bench up to 285 from 190
Squat up to 435 from 315
deadlift up to 455 from ??? (never did it before)
Cleans up to 225 from ??? (never did it before)

I'm 5'11, 191 with like 9% body fat so i dont think that i have put on too much weight???

I have never sought help from a CPT so just wondering if there are any experts on here

Clint
10-15-2007, 04:51 PM
If the pain is severe I would say have a doctor/specialist check it out. The last thing you want to do is make it worse.

Noob
10-15-2007, 05:18 PM
If the pain is severe I would say have a doctor/specialist check it out. The last thing you want to do is make it worse.


Classic doctor advice:




Man: "Doc, it really hurts when I do this."


Doc: "Don't do that."



Problem solved.



Though I know it's not that easy. I have tendonitis in both my shoulders and I still roll most every day.

Tick
10-15-2007, 05:25 PM
Try go for lightier weight for awhile and see if that helps with the pain. I am no fitness guru, but I would think it would be possible for you muscles to handle the heavy weight but your joints / ligaments / tendons not be able to handle it correctly yet...

Make sure that you are doing the exercises with correct form. Ask the trainers at your gym to just correct your form (every gym I have been at they did that if asked).

Also, like everyone else said... See a doctor if the pain is excruciating enough.

Jarico
10-15-2007, 05:49 PM
... I would think it would be possible for you muscles to handle the heavy weight but your joints / ligaments / tendons not be able to handle it correctly yet....

Thanks I never thought about that, but it makes sense

Steel
10-15-2007, 06:06 PM
Be very careful with what you do now as it will affect you later.

I'm 37 and wrestled, fought did karate and now I'm banged up for my sins. Knee pain, back soreness etc. but I still try to do what I can, knowing I have some limitations. Keep in mind that the more you bulk up the more you have to carry around and maintain. You could wind up having additional pains in other places.

Good luck and keep us informed as to your progress.

And for the record, I think I can kick Noob's arse and steal his Yu-gi-oh cards as I at Dork's oatmeal cookies, wearing Val's diaper.

Noob
10-15-2007, 09:09 PM
Be very careful with what you do now as it will affect you later.

I'm 37 and wrestled, fought did karate and now I'm banged up for my sins. Knee pain, back soreness etc. but I still try to do what I can, knowing I have some limitations. Keep in mind that the more you bulk up the more you have to carry around and maintain. You could wind up having additional pains in other places.

Good luck and keep us informed as to your progress.

And for the record, I think I can kick Noob's arse and steal his Yu-gi-oh cards as I at Dork's oatmeal cookies, wearing Val's diaper.

You can eat oatmeal and wear diapers all you want, but as soon as you touch my Yu-Gi-Oh cards, you sir are fucked.



http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w109/Noob1309/picachu.gif

Ubermensch
10-15-2007, 09:17 PM
Lighter weight more reps. The thing that is happening to you is that your muscles are stronger than what your joints and or Ligaments can handle. Do less weight and lots of reps instead for a while till you get your J&L up to speed.

P.S.
191lbs
5'11"
9% BODY FAT!!! are you telling the truth here about your body fat. If so WTF do you eat???

I'M asking because I'm at 12% and I think thats too much definition already??

Jarico
10-15-2007, 09:45 PM
Yeah I only eat:
chicken/salmon/tuna/egg whites
Whole grain Pasta/brown rice/whole grain english muffins
lots of fresh veggies not too much fruit except oranges
I eat a great salad every night with tomatoes/Cucumbers/olives/spincah/feta cheese/bananna peppers/basil/balsamic vinegar and extra virgin olive oil
over a gallon of water a day and i rarely drink alcohol.
I also eat about 5-6 times a day reasonable portions with all the essentials


I get bitched out now though cause my girlfriend says soon i'll have a bigger chest than her...but so what

leejames1
10-16-2007, 01:42 PM
damn u must be in seriously good shape im, 6ft 2 and around 180 lbs and im still 12% body fat

Ramma
10-17-2007, 06:03 AM
If the pain is severe I would say have a doctor/specialist check it out. The last thing you want to do is make it worse.

Agreed.. before you ruin something for good... go see a doctor or get some sort of medical advice. The pain could be caused by a few things. Get advice from a professional

kaiz77
10-18-2007, 06:46 AM
also bro think about taking a Glucosamine Chondroitin and msm supplement....

They work WONDERS with joint pain and aren't too pricey either if you shop around.... Ive had ACL/meniscus surgery and shoulder surgery most recently...and I swear by it!!! feel better now than I ever did before....got my dad on it about a year ago (for his job at UPS...and just everyday aches) and he claims its a miracle supplement also...check it out....hear nothing but praises!!!!!

Hope this helps!!
Happy training...

Jarico
10-18-2007, 01:56 PM
I heard that from a lot of people and I've been taking that for like 2-3 months and it didn't really do anything, the weird thing is the knee that hurts is not the one i had surgery on

Tick
10-18-2007, 05:26 PM
also bro think about taking a Glucosamine Chondroitin and msm supplement....

They work WONDERS with joint pain and aren't too pricey either if you shop around.... Ive had ACL/meniscus surgery and shoulder surgery most recently...and I swear by it!!! feel better now than I ever did before....got my dad on it about a year ago (for his job at UPS...and just everyday aches) and he claims its a miracle supplement also...check it out....hear nothing but praises!!!!!

Hope this helps!!
Happy training...

From talking to people about them it is it either seems to help or does absolutely nothing. I take Glucosamine and I think it helps. When taking it I don't feel a difference until I don't take it for awhile.

kaiz77
10-18-2007, 06:59 PM
I had the same thing happen with my knees.......surgery on right....then came the pain in the left......

Its do to the fact that you sort of "baby" the knee you had surgery on and that your "healthy" leg has been bearing all the weight to make up for putting full force on the torn knee.........Ive been told that even when you have pretty much completely healed....your brain has made new connections already to favor the non-surgery joint......which in time will mess up your good side...

just try to consciously even out your weight distribution when standing around n' stuff........like I stand around at work a lot and I'll notice Im favoring my "good" side from habit....I'll just make myself stop leaning that way and center it out....

after awhile you wont have to think about it anymore and the aches will slowly go away.......(at least they did in my experience)...

dudefella
10-20-2007, 07:45 AM
If you're already having joint problems after 18 months in areas with no previous injuries, you've simply been training too hard or just improperly. It takes time for your ligaments and tendons to get strong enough to handle intense training. Ease off on volume, intensity, weight, and increase your rep ranges to 10-12. There are also joint support supplements you can get, but I can't recommend any off the top of my head.