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Anthony
05-31-2006, 03:02 PM
Credit: MMAringreport.com

Another side to the Bob Sapp Story
Interviews
Written by Brett Atchley
Monday, 29 May 2006
There has been a lot of speculation going around about the current state of K-1 as an organization. With the recent incident of Bob Sapp walking out of K-1’s last event in Holland at the last moment, despite being in the main event with Ernesto Hoost rumors have been swirling.

What was shared with me over hours of conversation over days with a source that asked to go un-named was nothing short of unbelievable. The source is someone who is as close to the organization as one can get and the source conveyed, “If this is written accurately, K-1 will know it to be the truth and will have no doubt as to its origin,”

What this individual heard was that although the events that transpired were over a very long period of time he would agree to condense and provide me with the readers digest version. Two hours later and in the company of a very irritated wife, ( I went to see the DaVinci Code and she ended up watching it alone) I learned more than I ever expected, in terms of what goes on behind the scenes of the K-1 organization from this source, from his perspective. Maurice Smith also reinforced and substantiated much of what was shared with me as well, as he was and still is Bob Sapp’s trainer.

On May 13, 2006 a strange turn of events took place when much to the surprise and shock of some 25,000 unsuspecting fans, Bob Sapp initiated a very bold move and told Toru (K-1’s Attorney) he would not be fighting and walked out of the venue with his hands taped. What was reported on a website was that he walked out in an air of cowardice and false injury. What was also implied was that Sapp was doped up! How absurd is that, considering in Amsterdam narcotics are on many levels, not only an accepted part of society, but legal?

Bob Sapp was under a pre-existing fight contract with K-1 for a 20 fight contract, and he fulfilled that contract and his fight with Hoost, would’ve been his 22nd fight for the K-1 organization. His agreement with them was to renegotiate with K-1 on his 21st fight, with the promise of a substantial bonus, and the promise a new contract would be in place by his 22nd fight.

One week before the Hoost fight was to take place, K-1 and the promoter of the Holland event, (Simon Rutz) contacted Mr. Sapp, summoning him to Amsterdam to fight Ernesto Hoost in the main event. They promised in good faith that a new contract had been drawn up by the K-1 counsel and would be available for his review in Amsterdam, and that the money which was reported to be in the $500,000.00 range, would be deposited into his account or in escrow before his arrival to Amsterdam. When Mr. Sapp arrived in Amsterdam four days prior to the event there had been no monies deposited, or in escrow, so he contacted the organization in Japan with his concerns. Sapp told MMA Ring Report, “Japan is in opposition to Amsterdam in terms of time zone so it was the middle of the night and everyone was in bed, which was bullshit, it’s four days before the fight, I have no contract, and they are not getting their lazy asses out of bed to take care of this! We lose another day and the clock is ticking. We get a hold of K-1’s attorney (Toru) and the promoter (Simon Rutz) to find out what the skinny is. The promoter does not know, and the attorney says he is going to get it all taken care of.”



As days pass and the event approached, Sapp is of the climate that all will be worked out. The day before the fight, Mr. Sapp approaches the K-1 attorney (Toru) to ask him where the new contract is. The attorney was, in prior days, very personable, light-hearted and optimistic about the current situation. When Bob inquired further, he was told in no uncertain terms, that he did not know what was going on with the contract and to leave him “the fuck alone!” He further stated, “look Bob, I’m not your friend, this is not a friendship, it is business and that is just the way it goes. I will let you know when I know something.” Mr. Sapp was visibly and emotionally disturbed and insulted by the mentality that he just been exposed to. It was apparent to him that distance was being placed between himself and the organization. Mr. Sapp always felt that his relationship with K-1 was more than just a business relationship; he had after all been more than generous in the past with K-1 helping them promote at no cost to them. “The “Beast” promotions were promoted on the shoulders of Sapp and had done very well because of that, he had even made sure that each of the participants were very well taken care of, to the lengths of offering them items such as flat screen TVs, DVD players and digital cameras, independent of the purses. It was out of his own pocket, and he felt a fierce loyalty to the organization and wanted the athlete’s to be treated as professionals.”

All in all the point made was that he was nothing but a product that was to be put in his place and not forget who buttered his bread. This is where it got to a point of complete senseless behavior by the K-1 hierarchy. “They would not engage him. He finally was able to make his point to the promoter Simon Rutz, what his intentions were. They were as follows; Bob would fight Hoost for nothing if it were agreed that K-1 release him completely from all current and future obligations, or that he be presented with the promised contract that they were in severe breech of, signed by the K-1 matchmaker, Sadaharu Tanigawa. His demands were then conveyed to Mr. Tanigawa. Sapp was told the night before the event that he would have his contract and agreed upon purse by the promoter. This was reportedly, suppose to happen the next morning. Mr. Sapp had his own contract drafted just to cover his bases.

The next morning Sapp began his day as usual, doing various appearances and making himself visible to the promotions public and fan base. He was present at all press conferences and photo shoots, it seemed as though all would be as promised. They (Simon Rutz, the promoter and Tanigawa, the match-maker) relayed to him that it would all be resolved. Less than 4 hours from the start of the event nothing had been done. Sapp would not go to the venue, he took a firm position that he would not participate in the event unless he had a valid contract of some nature.

Two hours before the event was to commence Sapp got a call from Simon Rutz, begging Sapp to come to the venue and was once again assured that everything would be in order. He would go to the venue. When he got there he was met by both Tanigawa and Toru (the K-1 attorney) and directed to go to his dressing room to get ready and taped, they would be there with the documents containing within them a new contract. They would not agree to let him out of organization, and indicated that they would make good on their promise of the before mentioned agreement and compensation.

In the dressing room Maurice Smith began preparing Sapp for the fight. He began taping Sapp’s hands. “Some time had passed and nobody had shown up, he was dressed down, taped, jock, cup and shorts, ready to rock Ernesto’s world. Nobody had shown up, so the contract he had was taken, and off Sapp goes out to the venue with contract in hand. He can’t find K-1’s attorney. Toru just quit answering his phone and kind of disappeared placing a larger amount of distance between himself and the volatile situation. He catches up with Toru and shows him the contract, Tanigawa is present and Sapp is waving this contract around demanding for it to be signed or that they give him one. There was never a contract from K-1, and Tanigawa along with Toru say that they need an American to interpret the contract, that’s just bullshit. It’s not happening, Bob was being put in a corner and they gambled that he wouldn’t stand his ground. It was a pressure boiler of a situation. Bob Sapp and Maurice Smith along with the entourage in tow walked over to Toru and Dieasuke Karaguchi (a K-1 representative) and further reinforced the seriousness of his intentions by grabbing by the shoulder of Toru telling him in an angered tone, “this is all your fault mother fucker and I’m out of here.”

“Complete chaos and pandemonium commences. It was crazy, people are yelling, screaming, fighting, and crying. We had to get out of there. He was told before he could leave by both Toru and Karaguchi that if he did not fight, his physical well being would be compromised and those that were with him. We got the hell out of there as soon as we could. We got back to the room and a call was made to a well known billionaire who immediately arranged for eight bodyguards to see him and his team safely out of harms way.”

Anthony
05-31-2006, 03:03 PM
Sapp and his team were led from the hotel with eight security personnel to an undisclosed location in Amsterdam where they spent the night and caught a plane back to the United States. The aftermath of what happened is something that is almost beyond belief in what it reveals about K-1, its personalities, its athletes, and the industry as a whole.

K-1’s athlete’s are subject to a “consumption tax” levied by the country of Japan. The foreign contingent of K-1’s athletes will be subject to this tax retro-active to 2002. It is basically a tax based on the principles that athletes come to Japan to reside, thus consuming, space, food, energy, and other dispersed and disposed commodities noted to be of an above average value on a piece of land that pales in comparison to magnitude of it’s population. K-1 has not notified or advised any of these athletes about this, and until now they would never known until the Japanese equivalent of the U.S’s IRS caught up with them. What is believed by exercising this deception, is that it would present a situation in contract negotiations where the athlete’s could and would be entitled to a provision in the purse agreement that K-1 absorb the said tax.

“It all comes down to money and K-1 is not being upfront in advising or disclosing this tax. Thus the fighter is subject to these taxes unknowingly long after the contract is binding and monies are paid. Pride FC’s athletes all pay that tax, why K-1 has not attended to what will be a very serious matter for these athlete’s boggles the mind.

K-1 will not let Bob Sapp out of a contract. They see him even today as a big draw and a huge commodity. Bob has not done so well of late in competition. You would think that rather than keep him on a contract and continue to pay him for not fighting they would let him go. Since this has happened they have threatened to sue him and harm him, they see him now as an opportunity to exercise the same deal that they did with Royce Gracie.

Pride files suit in a California supreme court against K-1 in a matter that involved Royce Gracie. Pride was granted relief in California by the court in the K-1 lawsuit to the tune of just under $500,000.00. Toru was the lead counsel for K-1 in that matter. K-1 however, did turn around and negotiate with Zuffa to loan them Royce Gracie for some absurd amount that was bound to absorb the Pride award, with much more to spare. K-1 has the same hope and aspirations for Bob Sapp. Sapp has been speaking with all domestic MMA organizations and is actively pursuing an MMA career with these organizations. If the money is right and he has been welcomed with open arms. K-1 is doing everything in its power to make sure that they receive the lion’s share of that contract by “loaning out their fighter.” Sapp just laughs it off in that booming laugh that is uniquely Sapp. “Let them make their move, they got no game over here, they’re delusional.”

The rumors are to be put to be put to rest at least from the sources perspective of what happened in Amsterdam.

It is further noted that Fuji is in a state of complete ignorance of what the financial ramifications will be when the dust settles. K-1 is now promoting Sapp as a participant in the K-1 Grand Prix on July 30th of 2006. Currently there are no plans by Sapp’s camp to participate in that promotion. “If he were to participate for a said purse and contract of $ 1,000,000.00, he would be subject to the consumption tax and the IRS taxes, thereby leaving him with about $50,000.00. That is financially prohibitive all the way around. He just got a letter from K-1 advising him of the consumption tax. That’s the first ever in 4 years that it has ever been brought up.” There are no immediate plans for Sapp to ever return to Japan to engage in further negotiation with K-1. His health and welfare have been aggressively threatened. Simon Rutz is currently under investigation for charges of conspiracy and felony death threats.



It should be clarified that Simon Rutz was not involved in any of the threats in any way, shape, or form. He is just a good guy trying to salvage a bad situation. He was in the wrong place at the wrong time and is now being thrown out to the wolves as a scapegoat. Sapp has been approached by various MMA entities in the U.S., offering contracts. Sapp technically owes monies and has debt, thereby allowing him under U.S law to provide for himself a means of income.

The question that begs to be answered is this: What has K-1 gotten themselves into, that these acts of desperation and greed present to its athletes and public that there is an air of insecurity and volatility? Have they entered into a partnership with an element that is has no regard for its practices or its athletes welfare? As this unfolds, it is surely on a path that will rear the answers to these questions and many more surprises will come to light.

Sapp will stay here in the U.S and consider his current opportunities in the sport and in Hollywood. He is to be in a film with Rob Schneider and Randy Couture this summer. He has aspirations of being able to cross over from one industry to the other. Love him or leave him, what should be looked at are his actions as a whole, and the whole turn of events and actions by all parties. I leave it to you to make your own conclusions.

Kass101
05-31-2006, 03:47 PM
crazy shit man crazy shit. and from what it sounds like that account of events is pretty accuarte.

Matt Boone
05-31-2006, 04:29 PM
Yeah I was just over there reading that. That's some wild shit.

Anthony
05-31-2006, 05:02 PM
I wonder who that Billionaire was.....maybe the guy that owns WFA?

Alvin
06-08-2006, 01:12 PM
Sorry, I don't understand.

If Sapp had a 20 fight contract & he fulfilled it & in fact fought again without a contract, how is he still a contracted K1 fighter?

It all sounds very Hollywood!

Anthony
06-08-2006, 10:18 PM
Thats what I dont understand either.

ThaiRoundhouse
06-19-2006, 01:00 PM
Sorry, I don't understand.

If Sapp had a 20 fight contract & he fulfilled it & in fact fought again without a contract, how is he still a contracted K1 fighter?

It all sounds very Hollywood!
same here, I don't understand that. maybe he is a permanent part of k1 but his contract stated a 20 fight contract, so since k1 still owns him anyone must pay k1 to use him. but I really have no idea.:confusedsmilie:

ThaiRoundhouse
06-19-2006, 01:18 PM
the royce thing really makes sense now too. there was a lot of talk of royce getting paid $1.3mil or what ever but many denied royce actually getting 1.3. k1 didn't tell royce about the tax either so they sent him to UFC for crazy money but after to tax he really didn't get that much.......right?:huh: but what does pride have to do with this? he fought for pride which increased the tax even more and pride was uninformed that royce was uninformed of the tax having pride being thrown under the bus too?:ahh: :ahh: I didn't know japanese companies were so corrupted. If I was bob I wouldn't go back either. end up in some japanese mafia threat shit. It's to bad though we may not ever see him in japan again. bob sapp was HUGE in japan.

bob sapp haymakers to sylvia's face here we come!:hulk09:

WandAXE
06-26-2006, 04:34 AM
That has to be some Japanese mafia shit. Thats crazy. Im dien to know who that billionare was. Anthony you have to follow up on this.

nole
06-26-2006, 02:11 PM
that shit is nuts, that story makes me pissed. I wonder if in sapp's contract that he was paid to fight 20 fights but was not released of k-1 upon completion of the 20 fights just renegociated.

usobadgracie
06-26-2006, 08:50 PM
I have heard Tim Sylvia refers himself as the Heavyweight Champion of the World a couple of times, but he is really the UFC Heavyweight Champion which isn't bad but he isn't the World Heavyweight Champion yet.

nole
06-26-2006, 09:01 PM
I have heard Tim Sylvia refers himself as the Heavyweight Champion of the World a couple of times, but he is really the UFC Heavyweight Champion which isn't bad but he isn't the World Heavyweight Champion yet.
or ever

Afroduck
08-14-2006, 03:33 PM
As much as I would like to see Sapp in the UFC it can't happen can it,I mean with the weight limit

tj31atr
08-17-2006, 10:17 PM
Anthony, thank you, that was very well written and easy to follow. Except of course for how he can possibly still be under contract to k1 after fighting 21 fights on a 20 fight deal.

Considering what these guys do for a living I give Sapp all the credit in the world for doing what he did, and say fuck k1! Hopefully Sapp will get a chance somewhere he deserves it.

matto
08-19-2006, 04:14 AM
fuck id be scared of hoost even if i was bob sapp, hoost forced sapp to stop before due to leg kicks, hoost has the worst leg kicks in all of fighting today without a doubt, not even bob sapp can handel them, if u saw their previous fight sapp was in so much pain.

prophet665
08-31-2006, 04:30 PM
As much as I would like to see Sapp in the UFC it can't happen can it,I mean with the weight limit

UFC doesn't have a super heavyweight class?

dudefella
09-01-2006, 02:19 AM
UFC doesn't have a super heavyweight class?
nope... HW's 205-265

prophet665
09-01-2006, 02:48 PM
nope... HW's 205-265

Wow...thats really got to limit Sapp's ability to fight. Isn't he pushing 375 or something outrangeous?

lyger81
09-25-2006, 02:58 PM
sapp fights his own style, lol. which isn't a very wise choice. he looks silly...i mean fujita completely dominate him and forced him to tap..and of course the infamous crocop left which put him down well. i don't think he'd make it over here, how are you going to package him to the fans? almost all of his clips are him being beaten or tapping out. he's much better suited for wrestling imo, although from what i've seen after his intro it's all down hill.

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09-25-2006, 04:10 PM
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09-25-2006, 04:31 PM
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leelandk
09-25-2006, 07:54 PM
Sounds like K-1 might have pulled a Vince McMahon on Sapp. Like after a contract expires financially, some fighters still have a no talent clause in their contract. Which basically says they can't use their talents for 1,2, or something like 5 years after the fighting obligation of the contract has expired unless given permission by the organization. So a fighter couldn't exactly jump ship to another organization and fight, they would have to wait for the no-talent clause to expire, or re-sign with the organization.

prophet665
09-25-2006, 09:35 PM
Sounds like K-1 might have pulled a Vince McMahon on Sapp. Like after a contract expires financially, some fighters still have a no talent clause in their contract. Which basically says they can't use their talents for 1,2, or something like 5 years after the fighting obligation of the contract has expired unless given permission by the organization. So a fighter couldn't exactly jump ship to another organization and fight, they would have to wait for the no-talent clause to expire, or re-sign with the organization.

Sapp would have to be an idiot to sign any kind of contract like that...HEY...wait a minute...never mind....I answered my own rhetorical question...how is that even possible...i think the fabric of the universe might just tear if I do it again....

Supreme
10-01-2006, 01:35 AM
I wonder who that Billionaire was.....maybe the guy that owns WFA?

No. The "billionaire" was obviously already at the K1 event in Amsterdam and was probably in the audience with those 8 bodyguards. I would guess the billionaire was some big Yakuza figure who was watching K1 at the time. Or maybe it was one of the Yakuza from PRIDE? Afterall, Sapp would have connections to PRIDE and they would be happy to supply him with bodyguards in order to get him to fight for them at a later time.