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matto
09-10-2006, 10:23 PM
this is consitering that all fighters from any organization can enter it and that the current hw's listed drop the weight which they r very capible of doing

sergay vs. shogun

rampage vs. couture

wand vs. andri arloski

chuck vs. cro cop

randallman vs. ortiz

arona vs. yushido

Big nog vs. Renato Sobral

Brandon vera vs. Vitor belfort



and maybe at the end the winner faces fedor. or not. but lets hear ur guy's picks

matto
09-10-2006, 10:28 PM
my picks


sergey (by ko in a hard fought stand up war)

couture (by tko, ref stopage)

andri arloski (by ko im guessing, although wand could easily win too)

cro cop (ko by left head kick)

randallman (by ref stopage or ko from a monsterous slam)

arona (by unamious decision. boring fight, kinda lay and pray, or yushido by submission)

Big nog (hard to believe but i think that nog could submit sobral.)

Vitor (tko, ref stopage after vitor rocks vera and then lands them fast punches from the top, although vera is a good up in commer he might stand a chance)

killerinstinct
09-10-2006, 10:45 PM
this is consitering that all fighters from any organization can enter it and that the current hw's listed drop the weight which they r very capible of doing

sergay vs. shogun

rampage vs. couture

wand vs. andri arloski

chuck vs. cro cop

randallman vs. ortiz

arona vs. yushido

Big nog vs. Renato Sobral

Brandon vera vs. Vitor belfort



and maybe at the end the winner faces fedor. or not. but lets hear ur guy's picks
Shogun-would be a good fight

Couture-You saw what "mini-Couture" Matt Lindland did to him.Couture would be able to controll Rampage in the clinch as well and would be able to take him down and end the fight.

Wanderlei-This would be a close fight that could go either way ,but I'm leaning torwards Wanderlei.

Crocop-Chuck is a beast and would have a punchers chance ,but I think that Crocop would eventually catch him with that high kick.

Kevin Randleman-He's a better wrestler than Tito.Kevin was even able to take down Fedor and Couture he'd murder Tito.

Arona-I'm leaning torwards him.

Nog-two ground specialist.Would be a good ground fight.

Vitor Belfort-Should be able to take this ,but he's disappointed me in the past so....

MMA 4ever
09-10-2006, 10:49 PM
Sergei by TKO

Couture by decision

Wanderlei by KO

Cro Cop by TKO

Ortiz by decision

Arona by decision

Big Nog by submission

Belfort by TKO

Intellectual
09-10-2006, 10:52 PM
interesting match ups. some of these can go either way

Sergei vs Shogun

This one sounds great. After watching Sergei's last fight, i've noticed the guy can take alot of punishment. Maybe the fight was stopped too soon, or not, he's proved that he has alot of stamina. Shogun is another great fighter, with incredible muay thai skills (very similar to his chute boxe buddy Wanderlei). I think the outcome can go either way,

Sergei via KO or Shogun via KO

Rampage vs Couture

Unless age doesn't play a factor for Randy, then outcome is...

Couture via TKO Ref Stoppage

Wanderlei Silva vs Andrei Arlovski

Wanderlei in my opinion is the more well rounded fighter, but i wouldn't be surprised if AA pulls off a submission or a KO. ima have to say...

Wanderlei via TKO or Decision

Chuck Liddell vs Mirko Cro Cop

Cro Cop via KO

Randleman vs Ortiz

Randleman has great power, and im not sure how Ortiz can handle it. This would be kind of a weird fight.

Ortiz via Split Decision

Arona vs Yoshida

Another interesting match up. I know Arona has intense leg kicks, and Cro Cop took down Yoshida in their fight. I cant really compare Arona's leg kicks with Cro Cops but we can take it to consideration. Both are well equipped with submissions, but when it comes to KO/TKO, i'd give it to Arona. But i've always said that Arona is one of the most boring fighters (and i've read that he also opens up your wounds during fights not sure if this is 100% accurate...mother fucker) anyway, i would say

Arona via Decision

Big nog vs. Renato Sobral

Both have incredible submission skills, and both can probably get out of any submission attempts during this fight. When it comes to stand up, Big Nog has the potential to KO/TKO, and has a strong chin. Babalu on the other hand isn't up to the same level.

Big Nog via KO/TKO/Decision (Unanimous)

Brandon Vera vs Vitor belfort

WOW! This would be a crazy fight. Vera and Belfort are both sick fighters. Both have submission and KO skills, but to be honest i've always thought Belfort wasn't much of an intelligent fighter. This would be an interesting fight. Im gonna have to say

Vera via Sub

BigJoe111
09-10-2006, 11:27 PM
this is consitering that all fighters from any organization can enter it and that the current hw's listed drop the weight which they r very capible of doing

sergay vs. shogun

rampage vs. couture

wand vs. andri arloski

chuck vs. cro cop

randallman vs. ortiz

arona vs. yushido

Big nog vs. Renato Sobral

Brandon vera vs. Vitor belfort



and maybe at the end the winner faces fedor. or not. but lets hear ur guy's picks
Shogun by TKO in the shortest fight of the night
Couture by three round decision
AA by KO
Cro Cop by split decision
Randlallman by KO from slam
Yushido by three round domination
Nog by KO
Vera by submission(you never know which Belfort will show up)

Intellectual
09-10-2006, 11:34 PM
Shogun by TKO in the shortest fight of the night


why do you think this? explain please.

BigJoe111
09-10-2006, 11:37 PM
why do you think this? explain please.
I think his Muay Thai skills are far superior and he would back Sergei up and quickly dispose of him. Just my opinion. Earlier I read someone said that Sergei could take a lot of punishment, but I don't think in this fight he'd be giving much back and would be done quickly.

BigJoe111
09-10-2006, 11:40 PM
I do have a question what would the venue be for this and under whose set of rules would the fights take place under. Are we talking a cage or a ring? We have to be specific, that makes a difference in some of these fights. The cage would really help some and hinder others. So Matto please clarify.

Intellectual
09-10-2006, 11:47 PM
I think his Muay Thai skills are far superior and he would back Sergei up and quickly dispose of him. Just my opinion. Earlier I read someone said that Sergei could take a lot of punishment, but I don't think in this fight he'd be giving much back and would be done quickly.

his muay thai far superior? comparing it to sergei's sambo? this is mma, you pretty much use any knowledge of fighting to win. i dont think comparing fighting styles holds much of a discussion.

Intellectual
09-11-2006, 12:11 AM
I do have a question what would the venue be for this and under whose set of rules would the fights take place under. Are we talking a cage or a ring? We have to be specific, that makes a difference in some of these fights. The cage would really help some and hinder others. So Matto please clarify.

he makes a really good point. the ring and octagon are very different.

BigJoe111
09-11-2006, 12:23 AM
he makes a really good point. the ring and octagon are very different.
Thank you. As far as your previous quote, I wasn't suggesting that Sambo wasn't as effective as Muay Thai. Besides the best thing about opinions are that I am allowed to sound stupid and who the hell cares, my opinions don't really make a difference. But I still say it would be a short night for Sergei. The best fight that they suggested was AA vs Wandy. Talk about two guys who when on are absolutely devestating.
Hey I had a question becuase you normally make a lot of sense, does it make sense to even put Vitor in this conversation anymore becuase of his inconsistancy. I know he is devestatin when he wants to be, but how often is that anymore. it is like mentioning Pedro Rizzo in any heavyweight discussion. it jsut doens't fit anymore. What do you think?

Intellectual
09-11-2006, 01:23 AM
Thank you. As far as your previous quote, I wasn't suggesting that Sambo wasn't as effective as Muay Thai. Besides the best thing about opinions are that I am allowed to sound stupid and who the hell cares, my opinions don't really make a difference. But I still say it would be a short night for Sergei. The best fight that they suggested was AA vs Wandy. Talk about two guys who when on are absolutely devestating.
Hey I had a question becuase you normally make a lot of sense, does it make sense to even put Vitor in this conversation anymore becuase of his inconsistancy. I know he is devestatin when he wants to be, but how often is that anymore. it is like mentioning Pedro Rizzo in any heavyweight discussion. it jsut doens't fit anymore. What do you think?

Thats exactly how i feel about Vitor and his performance. It's inconsistent and it feels like he puts no effort. If i was in Vitors place, i would definitley go to smaller organizations and climb up the ladder all over. His career as an mma fighter isn't over, it's just at a low point.

but without a doubt, he is still the "Phenom"

j.farrell
09-13-2006, 04:26 PM
my picks


sergey (by ko in a hard fought stand up war)

couture (by tko, ref stopage)

andri arloski (by ko im guessing, although wand could easily win too)

cro cop (ko by left head kick)

randallman (by ref stopage or ko from a monsterous slam)

arona (by unamious decision. boring fight, kinda lay and pray, or yushido by submission)

Big nog (hard to believe but i think that nog could submit sobral.)

Vitor (tko, ref stopage after vitor rocks vera and then lands them fast punches from the top, although vera is a good up in commer he might stand a chance)

brandon would destroy vitor belfort..in his prime or not..

Mac
09-14-2006, 12:54 PM
my picks:

Shogun
Rampage (Couture has lost a few steps)
A.A. ( by viscious k.o.)
Cro Cop ( based solely on owgp performance)
Ortiz ( unless there is no roid testing)
Arona
Big Nog
Vitor (past and future collide, although promising, Vitor is too much so soon)