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02-13-2008, 09:53 PM
SI.com - NBA - Mavs*on verge of*acquiring Kidd in seven-player deal - Wednesday February 13, 2008 3:55PM (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/basketball/nba/02/13/kidd.deal/index.html)

NEW YORK (SI.com) -- The Mavericks are on the verge of acquiring Jason Kidd from the Nets in a seven-player trade, according to reports.

The proposed deal, which was first reported by ESPN.com, would send Kidd and Malik Allen to Dallas for Devin Harris, Jerry Stackhouse, DeSagana Diop, Devean George, Maurice Ager and two future first-round draft picks. The Nets also would receive $3 millon.

Also, in a separate move, the Nets reportedly are close to trading Antoine Wright to the Mavs for a future second-round pick.

If completed, the trade would come only three days after Mavs owner Mark Cuban said a deal for Kidd was highly unlikely. Kidd is making $19.7 million this season.

"For us to make the numbers work in a deal like that, we'd have to trade away half the team," Cuban told reporters. "We're not doing that, so it just doesn't work. And, we like our team. We've got a lot of room for improvement and we hope to get better. But right now, I just don't see anything happening."

Trade speculation has followed Kidd since last February when the Nets were close to making a deal that would have sent him to the Los Angeles Lakers.

In December, Kidd sat out a game against the New York Knicks with a migraine, a move suspected by some to be a one-day walkout to force a trade or new contract.

At a news conference, Kidd denied those were his motives, saying, "I am having one of my best seasons -- why would I want to be asked to be traded? And as a team, we are doing better than last year."

Then, last month, Kidd publicly demanded to be traded.

Kidd was acquired in a trade with Phoenix in 2001 and led the Nets to the NBA finals in 2002 and 2003. But his six-plus seasons have been tinged with off-court controversy.

His wife, Joumana, and their young son were subjected to taunts at Boston Garden in 2002 stemming from charges that he struck her in 2001 while playing for the Suns. Kidd was fined and underwent anger counseling.

Last year, both spouses filed restraining orders claiming physical abuse, and Joumana Kidd claimed in divorce papers that her husband cheated on her throughout their 10-year marriage.

In December, a 23-year-old model filed a lawsuit accusing Kidd of groping and threatening her at a Manhattan nightclub in October.

Those distractions have not affected Kidd on the court, according to Nets coach Lawrence Frank.

"One thing that is unique about Jason is his ability to separate anything else that goes on and, once he steps between those lines, give his best effort," Frank said. "He's proven that since he's been here as he's dealt with different things."

Kidd leads the league in triple-doubles this season with 12 and has 99 for his career, third behind Oscar Robertson and Magic Johnson. Earlier this month he became the sixth player in NBA history to reach 9,000 assists.

02-13-2008, 10:28 PM

02-14-2008, 12:58 AM
Lakers are taking it this year

02-14-2008, 08:32 AM
Don't like or follow basketball, but I heard driving home tonight that one of the players involved in this trade has applied his "non-movement" clause, which I would assume, would effectively kill this deal.

02-14-2008, 06:29 PM
Devean George excersised his no trade clause so this deal is dead. Shame a shitty player like that will ruin a trade like this.

02-15-2008, 03:54 AM
Devean George excersised his no trade clause so this deal is dead. Shame a shitty player like that will ruin a trade like this.

you cant blame him

02-15-2008, 07:28 AM
you cant blame him

not blaming him, just sayin it's a shame because this would be an awesome deal. I wouldn't want to leave a perennial power house in Dallas either but...

02-15-2008, 03:26 PM
not blaming him, just sayin it's a shame because this would be an awesome deal. I wouldn't want to leave a perennial power house in Dallas either but...

yeah but id blame him if it was he just didnt want to leave the mavericks but he would of had to give up his larry bird right which would get him more money for next season

02-17-2008, 03:38 AM
Lakers aren't taking it this year. I like Kidd, but Jersey just ain't doing it in the near future. It's too bad. It would be nice to see him have a chance to win.

02-19-2008, 10:17 PM
Looks like its official.

Nets send Kidd to Mavs in 8-player deal - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080219/ap_on_sp_bk_ne/bkn_nets_mavericks_trade)

EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. - The Jason Kidd era is over in New Jersey. The New Jersey Nets and Dallas on Tuesday completed a trade sending the All-Star to the Mavericks, who now have one of the NBA's best point guards as they look toward the playoffs. This will be Kidd's second stint with Dallas.

The eight-player deal, in the making since before the All-Star break, sends Kidd, forward Malik Allen and guard Antoine Wright to Dallas for point guard Devin Harris, center DeSagana Diop and swingman Maurice Ager, plus retired forward Keith Van Horn and Trenton Hassell. New Jersey also gets two first-round draft picks and $3 million.

The Mavericks scheduled an afternoon news conference.

Van Horn and Hassell replace Jerry Stackhouse and Devean George in an original trade proposal. Stackhouse's presence in the deal was muddled by plans to get him back to Dallas within the rules, although in a way the league frowned upon and George used his veto power to block his involvement.

"He's a once in a lifetime type of guy to play with and coach," Nets coach Lawrence Frank, referring to Kidd. "He's had an unbelievable impact on everyone in this organization and we wish him nothing but the best."

Trade rumors had followed Kidd since last season when the Nets nearly pulled off a deal to send him to the Los Angeles Lakers. Last month he publicly demanded to be traded, starting a new round of rumors that have hung over the team for the last three weeks.

New Jersey was 23-30 and tied with Philadelphia for the sixth-best record in the Eastern Conference entering Tuesday's games. The Nets have lost 14 of their last 20 games.

"We were in a holding pattern for so long, now there's no more holding, no more waiting," Frank said. "You've got six or seven teams thirsting for the playoffs, and we're going to have to hit the ground running and adjust, and we're certainly capable of doing that."

Kidd is averaging 11.3 points, 10.3 assists and 8.1 rebounds. Harris, the next most prominent player in the deal, is averaging 14.4 points and 5.3 assists.

Nets president Rod Thorn said as the Nets struggled this season, Kidd lost some of the intensity that defines him as a player, making it imperative that the team trade him.

Thorn said he first noticed it in December, an indirect reference to an incident in which Kidd sat out a game against the New York Knicks with a migraine, a move some considered a one-day walkout to force a trade.

"Over the course of time it became very evident that his heart wasn't in it," Thorn said. "The kind of player he is, if his heart's not in it then he's not the same player, and it became evident to me that his heart wasn't in it anymore. It just wasn't going to work."

Kidd spent the first two-plus seasons of his career in Dallas. The Mavs drafted him third overall in 1994 and he was the NBA's co-rookie of the year in 1994-95. He was traded to Phoenix in 1996, then went from the Suns to New Jersey before the 2001-02 season. He helped the Nets reach the NBA finals his first two seasons, but they haven't made a long playoff run since.

The Mavericks have been among the NBA's top teams the last few years, but have fallen short of a title. They're trading Harris' promising future in hopes that Kidd, who turns 35 next month, has enough tenacity and leadership to push them over the top.

Dallas has been eyeing Kidd for a while, and owner Mark Cuban may have accelerated the process after seeing other top Western Conference teams make pivotal additions.

This is the third big trade involving a Western Conference power as the teams prepare for the stretch run. Before the All-Star break, Shaquille O'Neal was dealt from Miami to Phoenix and Pau Gasol went from Memphis to the Los Angeles Lakers.

The Kidd trade seemed done earlier last week until George vetoed it. Stackhouse's talk of being bought out and re-signing with the Mavs also didn't sit well with league officials.

The big winner in this is Van Horn, who has been out of the league the last 1 1/2 seasons. Dallas still owned his rights, so his involvement is essentially to make the numbers work. He'll be signed then traded and, like Kidd, he'll be heading back to his original team. It seems highly unlikely he'll actually play for the Nets.

Kidd's arrival should be a boon to reigning MVP Dirk Nowitzki, providing him with the easy baskets he used to get when teamed with Steve Nash. His presence also will open things up for Josh Howard, plus let Jason Terry spend more time at shooting guard.

Harris' numbers have gone up in each of his four seasons, helping him earn a five-year contract worth roughly $42 million before this season. However, he's nowhere near the distributor Kidd is, nor is he liable to get a triple-double. He may eventually have that well-rounded of a game, but the Mavericks decided they couldn't wait.

Losing Diop hurts Dallas' front line, as he is the primary backup to starting center Erick Dampier. However, Diop who is a free agent after this season had fallen out of favor lately.

George, also headed toward free agency, was in his second season with the Mavericks. He never found his niche because of injuries and a logjam at the small forward-shooting guard spots. Ager was another in that crowded mix. In his second year from Michigan State, he never worked his way into the rotation and recently was sent to the NBA Development League.

Allen was averaging 5.4 points in almost 16 minutes per game for the Nets.

Dallas also announced it waived forward Nick Fazekas, the 34thoverall pick in the 2007 draft.

02-20-2008, 11:38 AM
deals done J Kidd is with dallas again

02-22-2008, 06:06 PM
Damn, Lakers, Phoenix, Dallas, and the Cavs. Major deals that should shake things up considerably. Not to mention the Celtics kickin' ass as well.

02-22-2008, 07:15 PM
The Mavs evidently don't think they need size or defense to win in the playoffs. I know it was Kidd's first game but it looked like they needed Devon Harris back when Chris Paul ran wild. Harris probably wouldn't have had almost as many TO's as points. I might be totally wrong, but with guys like Nash, Parker, Paul, etc in the west I don't think they should've down graded defensivly at that position. Kidd is one of the all time great players, but he didn't play any defense in the Atlantic division(probably the worst division in basketball), how is he going to do defensivly in the toughest division in the NBA?

Punk Ass
02-22-2008, 07:39 PM
^^^Wrong, Jason Kid is one of the best defensive players in the league. He's leading in steals averaging 3 steals a game. You dont get 3 steals a game against NBA point gaurds not having any defense. Not only that but he's the best rebounding point gaurd in the league averaging also ten a game.

Yes, he may be leading in turnovers but he's also had the ball in his hand more than anyone else playing about 40 min a game and having to do everything for the team. Score, rebounds, and assists.

02-23-2008, 01:34 AM
It takes a while for a point guard to acclimate to a new team. Since the PG is the one who controls the ball for a majority of the game, he has to know all the plays, know his teammates habits and abilities, and establish chemistry. Plus, being at an advanced age doesn't help much either. He'll get better, Kidd will, but I don't think he's enough to push the Mavericks over the top. The Lakers are clearly the favorite in the west, as they have the right combination of size, depth, familiarity, youth, and talent. Watch out for Lakers/Jazz in the Western Conference finals, the Jazz are the ultimate sleeper team right now and they can beat anyone out west.

02-25-2008, 01:46 AM
imo the cavs improved their team the most out of all teams who made trades

02-25-2008, 10:06 AM
yeah but id blame him if it was he just didnt want to leave the mavericks but he would of had to give up his larry bird right which would get him more money for next season

Why do you say that? I'd think it would be more honorable if the reasons aren't about money. Wanting to stay with his teammates or not wanting to leave the city where his home is and his family has settled in are very respectable reasons for someone to exercise their no trade clause.