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thedon17
08-29-2008, 05:11 AM
Who ya got? Personally I think Lincecum should get it but most deserving doesn't always get it

Here are stats of the top 6 imo

Player TEAM W L ERA G GS CG SHO SV SVO IP H R ER HR HBP BB SO
T Lincecum
SF 15 3 2.43 28 27 0 0 0 0 185.1 149 55 50 9 4 70 210

J Santana
NYM 12 7 2.70 28 28 2 1 0 0 190.0 167 65 57 22 4 50 159

E Volquez
CIN 15 5 2.80 27 26 0 0 0 0 157.2 134 61 49 10 11 73 155

J Peavy
SD 9 9 2.84 23 23 1 0 0 0 145.2 121 48 46 15 5 47 142

B Webb
ARI 19 5 2.96 28 28 3 1 0 0 188.2 166 71 62 10 9 46 157

B Sheets
MIL 12 7 3.05 26 26 4 2 0 0 174.0 159 64 59 14 1 40 144

bigsmooth696969
08-29-2008, 06:40 AM
How do you have Sheets and Peavy on this list??? Where is Sabathia?? The cat is 8-0 in the NL and if he finishes 12-0 or around there, I can't see how he isn't the best pitcher in the NL. I like Lincecum but his team is straight garbage. Same with my hometown buy Volquez. I think Webb is the run-a-way choice.

thedon17
08-29-2008, 07:14 AM
How do you have Sheets and Peavy on this list??? Where is Sabathia?? The cat is 8-0 in the NL and if he finishes 12-0 or around there, I can't see how he isn't the best pitcher in the NL. I like Lincecum but his team is straight garbage. Same with my hometown buy Volquez. I think Webb is the run-a-way choice.

CC pitched half the season in the AL so I don't know how that would work. And Lincecum's crappy team is even more reason why he should win it. W-L record is a useless record but 90% of the time the pitcher with the most wins wins.

jcmichaels42
08-29-2008, 05:14 PM
I think it's gonna be really close between Lince and Webb. Both have been awesome, but I think Webb might get the nod only because his team is better at this point. Put Lince on the D-Backs or a half decent team and he might have 22 wins at this point.

bigsmooth696969
08-30-2008, 04:34 AM
The CY Young award gets voted on just like the MVP. Most of the time they don't give it to a person on a horrible team. With Webb's team being in playoff contention, I think he wins going away.

thedon17
09-01-2008, 06:08 AM
Good job Dodgers for roughing up Webb today. Maybe it will hurt his Cy Young credentials today. 6ER in 3.1IP ERA climbs up to 3.16

pa99fighter
09-01-2008, 06:16 AM
Sabathia has to get it. He doesn't lose with the Brewers.

thedon17
09-01-2008, 08:47 AM
He pitched a no hitter today but got stiffed on a bad call that ruled an error a hit.

Mac
09-01-2008, 04:07 PM
It's gotta be Webb unless he falls apart, Lincecum would get it if he were on a better team, but I don't see CC getting it for half a year. If he goes 12-0 he sneaks into the conversation, but he's gotta go 12-0 first.

Paytheplayer
09-01-2008, 06:24 PM
I voted Lincenum only because
A) Sabathia isn't on the list and he's been amazing.
B) Every single one of Webb's losses came when I had a lot of money on them winning, so I hate him now.

I don't agree that the Cy Young should only go to a pitcher from a good team. SF sucks ass, and yet Lincenum is tied for 4th in the NL in wins, he leads the MLB in strikeouts, and he's tied for first in the MLB for ERA. PLaying for a shitty team with stats like that make it all that more impressive IMO. Lets not forget that he did this, while playing for the team with the LEAST amount of runs in baseball.

Edit: Also, Im pretty sure in the AL the candidates would be Dice K, Doc, and Lee. Besides Dice K, the other 2 play for teams who aren't in contention either, and most likely Lee wins it.

MichaelK
09-03-2008, 01:11 AM
Don't forget that run support also has to be factored in.

bigsmooth696969
09-03-2008, 04:25 AM
I voted Lincenum only because
A) Sabathia isn't on the list and he's been amazing.
B) Every single one of Webb's losses came when I had a lot of money on them winning, so I hate him now.

I don't agree that the Cy Young should only go to a pitcher from a good team. SF sucks ass, and yet Lincenum is tied for 4th in the NL in wins, he leads the MLB in strikeouts, and he's tied for first in the MLB for ERA. PLaying for a shitty team with stats like that make it all that more impressive IMO. Lets not forget that he did this, while playing for the team with the LEAST amount of runs in baseball.

Edit: Also, Im pretty sure in the AL the candidates would be Dice K, Doc, and Lee. Besides Dice K, the other 2 play for teams who aren't in contention either, and most likely Lee wins it.

What, no love for K Rod? If he breaks the saves record, he better damn get it.

thedon17
09-04-2008, 04:34 AM
Relieve pitchers should not get Cy Young awards. They have their own awards

Paytheplayer
09-04-2008, 05:45 PM
What, no love for K Rod? If he breaks the saves record, he better damn get it.

Yeah when it comes down to it, starting pitchers win the Cy Young. No doubt that K Rod will win the Delivery Man of the year award, regardless if he breaks the saves record or not. He's been the most impressive reliever this year.

Nebraska
09-20-2008, 08:41 PM
Tiny Tim gets it, and it will be an absolute disgrace to the award if he doesn't. He's leading the Majors in Strikeouts, and leading the NL in ERA (almost a full run lower than Webb's). No-brainer.

Who voted for Peavy?

thedon17
09-29-2008, 10:40 PM
End of the year stats:

Webb: 22-7 3CG 1SO 226IP 83ER 13HR 183K 3.30ERA 1.2WHIP

Lincecum: 18-5 2CG 1SO 227IP 66ER 12HR 265K 2.62ERA 1.1WHIP

Other notes: Lincecum has had 5 blown saves vs Webb's 1. 3 times Lincecum left the game with 1-0 game with 0 run support vs Webb's 1.

This is about pitching ability not team effort.

Nebraska
09-30-2008, 01:27 AM
Lincecum was the best pitcher in the NL this year. It should be unanimous, same with Lee for the AL.

bigsmooth696969
09-30-2008, 03:45 AM
Lincecum was the best pitcher in the NL this year. It should be unanimous, same with Lee for the AL.

OK, I'm going to use your excuse on the NL MVP here. A player who is on a horrible team should not win because their team isn't in contention! Webb should win over Tim because his team was in playoff contention up until the final week. Lincecum's Giants were out in May! Here's how I see it:

1 Webb
2 Sabathia
3 Lincecum
4 Volquez

Also, Lee's Indians sucked from the first week. K-Rod had the best season of a reliever EVER! K-Rod was the best pitcher in the AL. He deserves it plus his team is in the playoffs. Lee's season was great too and he will most likely win but no way it will be unanimous. K-Rod will get atleast 30% of the first place votes.

thedon17
09-30-2008, 04:33 AM
This is the Most Valuable PLAYER Award. Not the most decent pitcher on the better team award. It is an individual pitching award, not team.

Nebraska
09-30-2008, 05:32 AM
OK, I'm going to use your excuse on the NL MVP here. A player who is on a horrible team should not win because their team isn't in contention! Webb should win over Tim because his team was in playoff contention up until the final week. Lincecum's Giants were out in May! Here's how I see it:

1 Webb
2 Sabathia
3 Lincecum
4 Volquez

Also, Lee's Indians sucked from the first week. K-Rod had the best season of a reliever EVER! K-Rod was the best pitcher in the AL. He deserves it plus his team is in the playoffs. Lee's season was great too and he will most likely win but no way it will be unanimous. K-Rod will get atleast 30% of the first place votes.

Wrong again, my friend. The Cy Young is an individual award based on individual performance. The MVP is an individual award based on individual performance, and how that performance translated to team success. I say again, they should rename it the MOP, if they want it to be strictly about numbers. Anyway, on to the Cy Young. No names, just stats.

Player A: 26 Quality Starts, 18 wins, 2.62 era, and 265 K in 227 Innings Pitched.

Player B: 25 Quality Starts, 17 wins, 2.70 era, and 251 K in 253 Innings Pitched.

Player C: 24 Quality Starts, 22 wins, 3.30 era, and 183 K in 226.2 Innings Pitched.

Player A has more Quality Starts, a lower era, and more strikeouts in less innings pitched. Any guesses on what Player A's name is?

bigsmooth696969
09-30-2008, 04:25 PM
Wrong again, my friend. The Cy Young is an individual award based on individual performance. The MVP is an individual award based on individual performance, and how that performance translated to team success. I say again, they should rename it the MOP, if they want it to be strictly about numbers. Anyway, on to the Cy Young. No names, just stats.

Player A: 26 Quality Starts, 18 wins, 2.62 era, and 265 K in 227 Innings Pitched.

Player B: 25 Quality Starts, 17 wins, 2.70 era, and 251 K in 253 Innings Pitched.

Player C: 24 Quality Starts, 22 wins, 3.30 era, and 183 K in 226.2 Innings Pitched.

Player A has more Quality Starts, a lower era, and more strikeouts in less innings pitched. Any guesses on what Player A's name is?


Wow! You have excuses for everything! Whatever, I like Lincecum but I don't think he was the best pitcher in the NL this year. He will have a great career and hopefully the Giants will turn it around.

Nebraska
09-30-2008, 04:35 PM
Wow! You have excuses for everything!

Their actually called explanations, but I digress.


I like Lincecum but I don't think he was the best pitcher in the NL this year.

Based on...?

bigsmooth696969
10-01-2008, 05:01 AM
Their actually called explanations, but I digress.



Based on...?

I think CC was the best pitcher in the NL but he won't win and shouldn't win based on the fact he was only there for 1/2 a season. What he did to help the Brewers was more worthy than what Lincecum did for a last place team in SF IMO.

Don't take anything I say personally, I just like to argue sports!

thedon17
10-01-2008, 05:26 AM
Come on.. Padres are the cellar dwellers.

bigsmooth696969
10-01-2008, 06:05 AM
Who's talking about the Padres???

thedon17
11-11-2008, 07:33 PM
Ya baby! First thing the giants can celebrate all year. woohoo
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