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Anthony
06-11-2006, 04:22 AM
This is from TUF forums

"One and only time I say this I hope. We knew we were going to be asked to fight. It was a day b4 weighins if memory serves. I was to be the first in the room with Dana, Ken and Tito. I asked Mike and Kristian if they were hot for the spot in the semis, cuz at that point, I just didnt care either way. They both said they wanted it. I told them ok, "i will take myself out of it then." I told Dana that I'd go, but wasnt 100% into it and that other guys were. I didnt wanna take their spot. Either way, thats the truth of the matter."

Afro
06-11-2006, 04:24 AM
hmm

so Kristian tells Tait he wants the spot, so what compelled Kristian to tell Dana that he has a headache and cant fight???

Anthony
06-11-2006, 04:28 AM
I think christian wanted to get back to his fag party at his trailor and Tait couldnt pass a drug test.

LethalStriker
06-11-2006, 04:39 AM
The whole point of him competing on TUF is to get to the finals. He gets a second chance and he turns it down? I don't care what your excuse is, if you have a chance to fight to prove yourself as a fighter and you turn it down, then you're not a real fighter.

Afro
06-11-2006, 04:40 AM
The whole point of him competing on TUF is to get to the finals. He gets a second chance and he turns it down? I don't care what your excuse is, if you have a chance to fight to prove yourself as a fighter and you turn it down, then you're not a real fighter.
thats not an excuse, its a boldface lie.

AudieMurphy1
06-11-2006, 05:30 AM
dude deserves an armbar

Noob
06-11-2006, 06:45 AM
The whole thing was pretty weird. You could tell that Dana was wigged out by it. Pointon, as game as he is, probably won't pose much of a threat for Bisping. Matt and Bisping would have been a great fight. I'm dissapointed to see Matt out.

Matt Boone
06-11-2006, 07:17 AM
Yeah no matter what happened that was crazy. Two people turning down a chance to win one fight and be in the live finals. No reason to turn it down unless you were only there to begin with to be on TV and get exposure. I know the mental thing is a big part of the game, but you should be mentally strong enough going into something as big as that to take advantage of any and every opportunity you get.

Noob
06-11-2006, 07:36 AM
Yeah no matter what happened that was crazy. Two people turning down a chance to win one fight and be in the live finals. No reason to turn it down unless you were only there to begin with to be on TV and get exposure. I know the mental thing is a big part of the game, but you should be mentally strong enough going into something as big as that to take advantage of any and every opportunity you get.

Yup.

Kimuras"R"Us
06-11-2006, 10:14 AM
Fuck Tait he's an idiot... If you don't take a chance to lose and be one win from the LIVE TELEVISION FINALS you're an ass... I hope he never makes it with his goofy ass facial hair... I'm completely drunk on a side note.

Kass101
06-11-2006, 11:00 AM
all you guys are looking at it way in the wrong way. plent of guys get selected for the show and they have undefeated records and have beaten the guys they fight and then get on the show and lose. the realize they have to learn more before their ready. all those guys new going in they were going to be fighting bisping whos the best lhw on the show. they had already lost on national tv to a worse fighter and now were gonna be fighting someone better. its stupid for any of them to take the fight because losing twice on national is worse then losing once. they both new dana just needed someone to throw to bisping and they were smart not to take it.

Alvin
06-11-2006, 12:17 PM
Bullshit.

Leban lost twice on the first series & he's still fighting in the UFC, because he showed heart.

If Tait (who if memory severs me lost a controversial decision that still baffles me) was half the fighter he said he was he would have relished the chance to fight Bisping. Would he have cried off if Bisping got paired off with him in the prelims?

If he wasn't ready for the fight fair enough, but don't make excuses by saying I passed so that the another fighter could have my chance. Pure Colombian un-cut horse-shit!.

lilburky824
06-11-2006, 09:25 PM
It pisses me off so bad to see these guys who get the chance of a lifetime an they fuckin blow it , they come there an they give half assed fights an im not sayin everyone there is like that because there not but a guys like tait , noah, christian an im sorry but matt & mike N. they had a sloppy fight i expected more from both of them but they all go there an say they would do anything for a shot but then dont give it there all an when given a second chance which doesnt happen much in a persons life they bitch out thats bullshit , i know many guys who would kill do be in there place i hope to never see tait , noah or christian in any type of mma sport again.

Spinningbackfist
06-11-2006, 09:59 PM
even if tait came back into the semis he most likly would of had to fight bisping and he would have destroyed him. ha and kristian already got whooped my bisping so u know he didnt want ne more of that ha.. ps i think pointer just with his heart alone is gonna be the best challenge for the count..cant wait

pimpslappd
06-11-2006, 11:10 PM
Its always nice to see fighter's who have confidence in their skills.

Matt Boone
06-11-2006, 11:33 PM
I tried covering the counter argument Kass presented, knowing someone would point it out, in my actual initial response. I know it's a great chance of losing, but you shouldn't agree to go in the tourney on the show to begin with if you aren't willing to take every chance you get regardless of the risk of looking bad. Don't feed me the undefeated and big revelation crap because Tait and Kristian were not undefeated going into the show, not by a long shot. Both guys had no business going on the show to begin with if they weren't mentally ready to throw caution to the wind and take every chance in front of them.

Afro
06-11-2006, 11:35 PM
Overall... saying no to a fight is the biggest bitch move a fighter can do IMO

Matt Boone
06-11-2006, 11:44 PM
Esp. on a show where you're fighting to become the next "Ultimate Fighter" lol. If you go in willing to quit if things get rough, you have no business trying out to be in the UFC. It's just not gonna work. After this show, if you do good like you had to intend on doing before joining the show or you wouldn't be there, every fight is going to get harder and harder and harder. So Kass's argument really holds no water with me.

ddoggma
06-12-2006, 05:53 AM
I'm inclined to believe what the above poster said. Their ducking an asswhooping. And any real fighter would jump at the chance to get lucky. But really none of those guys has a shot . The guy with the funny beard, is weak. He's a JJB guy but yet he did very little of that in his fight. While Ken screamed at him to take him down. He stood there and tryed to trade blows with that bar room flailer. I see alot of them pass on the triangle,when they clearly have their back and would be easy to clamp on.Matt did,Kaleb,Fletcher too I think. Most of these guys are scrubs. And on team Shamrock they didnt listen to Ken enough.While. Titos guys were like little robots carrying out ever move he yelled to them.Kens right that the cardio thing wasnt his responability to make sure they were ready to match Titos guys, But of the other hand Tito knows the importance of stamina. And of all the things he could give them, that would be easyest and most usefull to them in the ring. Ken should have done the same. Just boot camp their ass' and spare alot at 80% would have been better I think.

Afro
06-12-2006, 06:00 AM
Kens partially to blame for the Cardio, he gave them too many breaks but still he brought in a personal trainer right? so Cardio shouldnt of been a problem.. so yea these guys shoulda came to the show in better shape.

Alvin
06-12-2006, 07:13 AM
The problem was that some of Ken's team, especially Tait, had V little respect for him or what he was saying.

When Ken made one of his fighters (can't remeber who right now) spar a day before his fight they all moped around & bitched leading to Kens argument with Tait.

Maybe that was the real reason he passed, he was still sulking with Ken?

Afro
06-12-2006, 07:18 AM
The problem was that some of Ken's team, especially Tait, had V little respect for him or what he was saying.

When Ken made one of his fighters (can't remeber who right now) spar a day before his fight they all moped around & bitched leading to Kens argument with Tait.

Maybe that was the real reason he passed, he was still sulking with Ken?
still a god awful reason.

Thats when I lost respect for Tait

the guy complained when Ken wasnt pushin him, then complained when Ken was pushin him.. then he quits.. awful showing for Tait overall.

Alvin
06-12-2006, 07:52 AM
still a god awful reason.

Thats when I lost respect for Tait

the guy complained when Ken wasnt pushin him, then complained when Ken was pushin him.. then he quits.. awful showing for Tait overall.

Yep. I think Noah's got a better chance of being asked to fight on a UFN then Tait after that!

djimprint
06-12-2006, 07:10 PM
The only other reason that I would think that Tait would have turned that down was maybe his weight?

He took an ass beating from Josh, IMO Tait won that fight... yet I digress.

Now, if you're hurt, overweight, and supposed to weigh in the next day... are you going to do well?

I don't agree with Tait's decision by any stretch, however I'm just trying to reason out/play devil's advocate.

Afro
06-12-2006, 07:48 PM
I think Ross made the ultimate point here when he said

"Im a Fighter, a fighter doesnt turn down a Fight"

Anthony
06-13-2006, 02:44 AM
Overall... saying no to a fight is the biggest bitch move a fighter can do IMO

Verbal tapout is the biggest bitch move a fighter can do

Afro
06-13-2006, 02:46 AM
Verbal tapout is the biggest bitch move a fighter can do
in a fight..

mattsoper
06-13-2006, 07:51 AM
Yeah no matter what happened that was crazy. Two people turning down a chance to win one fight and be in the live finals. No reason to turn it down unless you were only there to begin with to be on TV and get exposure. I know the mental thing is a big part of the game, but you should be mentally strong enough going into something as big as that to take advantage of any and every opportunity you get.

Spencer Fsiher comes to mind....he truly is the king

Dsm634
06-15-2006, 01:23 AM
Verbal tapout is the biggest bitch move a fighter can do

Does this really happen? Major weaksauce.....

Anthony
06-15-2006, 05:34 AM
Does this really happen? Major weaksauce.....

Kalib Starnes just did it.

#1taz
06-23-2006, 11:50 AM
To say that if someone doesn't take a fight then that makes him a bitch isn't always true...if you are seriously injured, if there is a contract or money dispute, or if the guy isn't qualified enough to be worth fighting and you already have a better fight lined up...that is just a normal part of MMA business.

But to go on a MMA reality show where you know in advance who all of your potential opponents are going to be...and then turn down a chance to be in the semi-finals for any reason when you are physically able to fight is a pretty dumbass thing to do....regardless of who you are going to fight or how many times you've lost.

You came there to fight and got paid to fight....not to whine and go running home FFS.

After all...not just in the ufc - but in all of the different MMA organizations - they are lots of guys that took a fight when they were first starting out knowing damn well they were coming in as a huge underdog...and pulling off a win that surprised everyone and advanced their careers.

Besides...who got more respect and was the better man...Ross for stepping up and taking the fight unprepared knowing he had already been beat by Bisping once (just before the show started taping back in his home country) and he probably didn't have much of a chance...or the other guys for whimping out for BS reasons?

That's probably why Dana is taking a break from having new green fighters on TUF and is using experienced guys that have already fought in the ufc in season 4.

At least by having people that have already been in the ufc and aren't known as whiners or quitters...there shouldn't be any more wimping out and the matches just might be a little more worth watching.

This reminds me of that crap reality show Vince used to have on MTV - "Tough Enough"...and what a bunch of clowns some of those people were...lol

And where are they all now...probably still parking cars or waiting tables...lol

killerinstinct
06-23-2006, 09:37 PM
You came there to fight and got paid to fight....not to whine and go running home FFS.

This reminds me of that crap reality show Vince used to have on MTV - "Tough Enough"...and what a bunch of clowns some of those people were...lol

And where are they all now...probably still parking cars or waiting tables...lol
They don't get paid unless they stop there opponents on the show and what was wrong with Tough Enough?They're not all parking cars.Mike Mizanin is now on wrestling.Josh from season1 does interviews and sometimes commentates,Chris Nowinski had a contract with wwe in the past,Maven has had some success in the WWE,Nidia's had success in the wwe,shaniqua(can't spell)used to work with the wwe,Jackie Gayda works for TNA now,Matt Morgan has had lots of success in the WWE,and that one small girl from season 1 now works backstage.

#1taz
06-24-2006, 01:15 PM
"Mike Mizanin is now on wrestling.Josh from season1 does interviews and sometimes commentates,Chris Nowinski had a contract with wwe in the past,Maven has had some success in the WWE,Nidia's had success in the wwe,shaniqua(can't spell)used to work with the wwe,Jackie Gayda works for TNA now,Matt Morgan has had lots of success in the WWE,and that one small girl from season 1 now works backstage."

Dude..you just made my point.

Not one of them are worth a damn in the ring , making any serious money, or holding any titles as a wrestler...lol

And while Vince was wasting money and time on them...lots of unrecognized talented poeple were starving...just waiting for their chance that never came.

The same is true for TUF in the ufc...there are a lot of better guys that should have got a chance to step up and prove themselves on a PPV.

Hell...there are even a lot of female fighters in MMA that deserve a chance more than some of the guys that have been on that show.

If Dana wants to get some serious ratings...why doesn't he have an all women TUF and put females on a ufc PPV?

I've seen some pretty bad-ass female fighters that could probably kick some of the guys from TUF's ass...lol

Alvin
06-24-2006, 07:08 PM
If Dana wants to get some serious ratings...why doesn't he have an all women TUF and put females on a ufc PPV?

I've seen some pretty bad-ass female fighters that could probably kick some of the guys from TUF's ass...lol

Are you serious!!!

Who the hell want's to watch a couple of boilers fighting?

Now chuck in some mud or jam & some playboy bunnies & i'll pay to watch it.

killerinstinct
06-24-2006, 07:33 PM
Are you serious!!!

Who the hell want's to watch a couple of boilers fighting?

Now chuck in some mud or jam & some playboy bunnies & i'll pay to watch it.
Yeah I'd love to see the playboy thing ,but not no man-bitches fight.

#1taz
06-24-2006, 10:26 PM
What are you guys...dinosaurs?

That attitude about women stopped being usable a long time ago.

You guys know that there are women pilots flying fighters in the gulf and working in combat units risking their lives every day right now.. right?

You also do know that there are good looking talented women pro wrestlers that don't do any gimmick matches, don't have huge ugly fake boobs, and don't wrestle in mud or in their underwear...right?

To say that any natural looking women athletes can't compete and aren't worth watching is BS....get a grip.

And to say that there aren't any decent looking females out there that have any serious MMA skills is also pretty damn lame.

It's seriously a shame that too many sports organizations are all male-dominated by owners and managers that still think women don't belong competing in any sports or don't belong in any sport organizations....except as dumb fake bimbos that are only good to be used for eye candy.

Reality check boys - not everyone likes to see women with fake collagen inflated lips, fake phony-looking silicon boobs, phony blonde dyed hair, botox and surgically altered faces caked in makeup, with fake fingernails and fake eyelashes, with a fake sprayed-on tan, looking and acting like cheap hookers or wannabe porn stars.

Some guys like women that are intelligent, well educated, physically fit, well-toned, and that are accomplished competitive athletes...and look good naturally - not like phony plastic barbie-doll wannabe's....FFS

With neanderthal attitudes like you guys have - you guys must never get laid unless you pay for it....lol

Alvin
06-25-2006, 01:44 AM
Hey girlfriend don't get me wrong, I'm all for the crap you spewed, but throw them in mud or jam is all i;m saying!

killerinstinct
06-25-2006, 02:53 AM
i don't have a problem with it as long as the girls still find time to wash my dishes.

#1taz
06-25-2006, 12:34 PM
Ha Ha Ha...you guys crack me up!

Go check out some of the fine looking ladies that compete in athletics and say that to their face.

But when you do...please let me know so that my 200 pound, 6ft 2in combat veteran's ass can can be there to see the look on your face when you get humbled by a real woman.

When you want to find a woman to be there for all of the crap that life throws at you...and to help you settle down and raise a family in this crazy-ass world we live in...good luck with your little plastic Barbie Dolls boys.

Me...I'll stick with my lady that goes to the gym and works out with me...and I know I can depend on - because no matter what happens....I know she's got my back.

Like I've always said:

Real men have real women.

Little boys play with little toys....lol