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Ramma
01-22-2009, 05:30 PM
As a grappler, where are you at your best? You can list them in order if you want, but where do you do the best when grappling?

On Your Back, Top Positions, Standing up (Shots, takedowns, slams, throws, sprawls), etc.



For me, I'm best on my back. I have no problem pulling guard from the get go and working from there. Most of my submissions are usually off of my back (I get a lot of armbars, triangles, etc). Whether in my guard, in mount, queso (side control), etc., I can usually sweep the person and gain a better position.

Kimuras"R"Us
01-23-2009, 05:34 AM
As a grappler, where are you at your best? You can list them in order if you want, but where do you do the best when grappling?

On Your Back, Top Positions, Standing up (Shots, takedowns, slams, throws, sprawls), etc.



For me, I'm best on my back. I have no problem pulling guard from the get go and working from there. Most of my submissions are usually off of my back (I get a lot of armbars, triangles, etc). Whether in my guard, in mount, queso (side control), etc., I can usually sweep the person and gain a better position.


I feel as though I'm most dangerous from side control. I have really great body control from there and use my weight well. Also, I always feel as though I react better from side. When people try to scramble or work back to guard I feel like I'm just acting on instinct taking their back or snapping chokes or arm locks in.

My guard is pretty good, not great, but pretty good. Off my back my half guard is probably my strong point. For some reason I can sweep the shit out of people in my half guard.

I know this doesn't really go with the question per se, but if there was one thing I wish I was taught more of, it would be leg locks. We don't drill them a ton in my school and I would love to add them to my arsenal.

Caesar
01-23-2009, 10:58 PM
As a wrestler, I am by far the best when the match is standing. I can take people down pretty well and control them, and people have a really hard time taking me down as well. I also scramble pretty well.

As it goes in wrestling, I'm good at NOT getting on my back haha. And bellying over to my stomach when I am on my back.

My top position could definitely use some work. Although my northern post series is nasty for my opponents.

killerinstinct
02-19-2009, 10:50 PM
I'm most dangerous when I have someone's back or have them in the stockade position. This question is silly.

lilfella84
02-19-2009, 11:44 PM
full guard love me some triangles..and armbars

Tenacious_Thunder
03-01-2009, 03:02 AM
Best standing because i am so flexable.....

MrSpanky
03-02-2009, 11:10 PM
Off my back for sure.
Plan is pretty much hit them till they wanna take me down. If the guillotine is there, that's probably my 2nd best technique, but if not, I can usually catch them in a triangle when they posture up in my gaurd. And if that doesn't work, I'll try some rubber gaurd to get a gogo/omoplata... The only downside is I did too much grappling on my friend's carpet, because back then thats all we had, and when I go down I have a tendency to land on my right elbow, which has led to way too many nasty rug burns, and a fucked up looking elbow.

kamikaze145
03-03-2009, 04:51 AM
This might sound weird but from the sprawl. I love front headlock chokes I am really good at darces and anaconda chokes and my guillotine is OK. I also like to take the back from there(wrestling background)

Repenter
03-28-2009, 08:11 PM
side control by far... but i enjoy being on my back. i have a great containment guard, and work a lot of different leg subs from there. i constantly work the armbar/omoplata/triangle combinations so they have no idea where i'm coming from. that hazelett 'omobar' has added some good times too :P

one of my favorites is to bait someone into my half guard... tie up the inside leg, gain double underhooks and pull a half crusher off of their contained leg. nobody sees it coming and it hurts like a mother.


while we're at it... does anyone like to use the truck?

jakeymadball
04-21-2009, 08:16 PM
As someone who's 5ft 6 with the world's shortest legs my guard is predictably poor - defensively & offensively.

I like to work from side & transition to North-south for chokes.

Of course in order to get there I've needed to get reasonable passes & takedowns.

My clinch is ok.

I get thrown from the back Way too much (short legs!!)

Clark80
10-05-2009, 02:40 PM
My full guard is very strong and I can squeeze the life out of most people (think there was a James Bond movie...nevermind)

I am very happy to pull guard and work from there.

The problem is...That I pull guard and work for the reversal so I can get top position. I realise that is a bit back to front.

My fave subs are: Arm triangle from full mount and arm bar from guard.

I always seem to leave my neck out and often have to fight out of guilotines.

I have issues with tapping to chokes and would rather go to sleep. Any arms or leg locks will achieve a tap as I value my limbs.

TheKidInside
10-24-2009, 12:13 AM
I am most dangerous off of my back because I have long thing limbs at the same time this is also my achilles heal (no pun intended as I have lost before to ankle and achilles locks LOL) but I am just as effective transitioning from the close guard and from side control. I think a good grappler is good no matter where is at.




I always seem to leave my neck out and often have to fight out of guilotines.

I have issues with tapping to chokes and would rather go to sleep. Any arms or leg locks will achieve a tap as I value my limbs.

the neck thing has been a problem of mine for years but I managed to control that further down the line, I also value my limbs and as a lot of tournaments are all sudden death in one day, if I can't roll or transition my way out of any leg or arm lock I'll tap but that doesn't happen enough :P

initial_zen
10-26-2009, 08:52 AM
I always seem to leave my neck out and often have to fight out of guilotines.



i found that looking upward toward their chest say if you are in their guard (especially butterfly guard) helps me stay out of guillotines and of course keeping your head aligned in the center of their body.

Clark80
10-28-2009, 01:31 AM
The alignment thing is the key. I injured my neck twice before... Not fun

Smaciman
11-28-2009, 05:13 PM
to answer the original question, I'm most dangerous when they're in my guard.
Specifically butterfly guard

kaiz77
01-18-2010, 11:23 PM
This might sound weird but from the sprawl. I love front headlock chokes I am really good at darces and anaconda chokes and my guillotine is OK. I also like to take the back from there(wrestling background)

Ditto sprawl lately all the way....minus the wrestling background.

KnowledgeKnown
02-19-2010, 11:38 PM
From my feet. My wrestling and Judo are second to none. If I get a hold of someone they typically end up on their back in an arm triangle.

Repenter
02-24-2010, 09:54 AM
i very rarely get choked out in non-gi grappling. i have a thick neck with very large traps that protect me from most attacks, and have rolled long enough to just keep my neck out of bad positions, specifically guillotines. my favorite no-gi submission is the arm triangle from side control, (kampmann style), but i've been working a variety of baseball bat chokes as of late. with a gi, they're deadly, but without a gi nobody sees them coming. just tie up, (almost like a thai plum) and gable grip, then jump down so that your opponent is actually in side control. i've gotten that one on 4-5 different partners, and the torque is always too much for them.

MrSpanky
02-26-2010, 06:35 AM
Rubber guard for sure. There's so many paths you can take from there if you know the system well. But usually I go for the pump to sweep him to his back and get the arm bar. It's not white belt hype like some people will tell you if you learn it, and train with people who know it well, there's really not that many defenses for the other guy to use.

Repenter
02-26-2010, 10:56 AM
Rubber guard for sure. There's so many paths you can take from there if you know the system well. But usually I go for the pump to sweep him to his back and get the arm bar. It's not white belt hype like some people will tell you if you learn it, and train with people who know it well, there's really not that many defenses for the other guy to use.

i use rubberguard a lot, (and i'm a 200+ pounder too, so it's rare in my division), but lately i've been using sean williams guard more often. bring up the meathook, (i use my left leg almost always), and reach around it under the knee, trapping their arm and allowing you lots of free space to move your hips out. there's a great choke from there too, almost like a triangle but using your forearm for the pressure.

SimpleJack
03-23-2010, 02:00 PM
At a buffet.....

MrSpanky
03-29-2010, 07:28 PM
i use rubberguard a lot, (and i'm a 200+ pounder too, so it's rare in my division), but lately i've been using sean williams guard more often. bring up the meathook, (i use my left leg almost always), and reach around it under the knee, trapping their arm and allowing you lots of free space to move your hips out. there's a great choke from there too, almost like a triangle but using your forearm for the pressure.

True. I don't know if you've heard of the deep half guard but it's another interesting guard that one of the guys I train with puts on me all the time. Basically you think you passed his guard but he traps your foot only in his crotch area and your calf is on his stomach while his head is kind of face up in your crotch area...if you can picture that. It sounds weird but to this day I still can't figure out a way to get out of it and there's a bunch of sweeps and submissions from there.

Agentman
06-27-2010, 04:45 PM
I'm quite comfortable on my back with my opponant in my guard although I also like to be in my opponants guard where I can work for ankle and leg locks. Ankle locks arent the most effective submissions but I'm especially resiliant to them myself so I dont mind trading ankle locks with an opponant because he'll tap before I do.

brutejitsu
10-18-2010, 04:28 AM
I'm the most dangerous after i make you pass out!!! :]