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willpunisher
02-05-2010, 01:39 AM
Let's say there was a open weight bjj tournament with some of the best bjj / mma fighters out there. who would you pick to win?

Pasha K
02-05-2010, 01:42 AM
Nogueira

willpunisher
02-05-2010, 01:47 AM
Nogueira

which one? lol

rivethead
02-05-2010, 01:59 AM
Roger Gracie

or

Fabricio Werdum

Pasha K
02-05-2010, 02:25 AM
which one? lol

lol the Big One

notBJpenn
02-05-2010, 02:45 AM
BJ all the way.

Pasha K
02-05-2010, 03:56 AM
Well to be honest I think that Kimbo should be aded here, he would have a great chance lol

notBJpenn
02-05-2010, 05:39 AM
Well to be honest I think that Kimbo should be aded here, he would have a great chance lol

Yeah you right.

bigsmooth696969
02-05-2010, 05:58 AM
No Maia?

Fedorlei Gomipierre
02-05-2010, 06:30 AM
Werdum, Werdum, WERDUM all the way.

Grappling credentials
ADCC World Submission Wrestling Championships
ADCC 2009 99 kg+: 1st place
ADCC 2007 99 kg+: 1st place
ADCC 2005 99 kg+: 3rd place
ADCC 2003 Absolute: 3rd place 99 kg+: 2nd place

Record of opponents:
Won: Dennis Roberts (pts), Daniel Gracie (pts), Reese Andy (pts), Tsuyoshi Kosaka (pts), Jehad A Hamdan (pts), Mike Van Arsdale (pts), Matt Lindland (armbar), Akira Shoji (pts), Marcio 'Pe De Pano' Cruz (pts), Elvis Sinosic (sub), Karol Bedorf (sub), Darren Andy (sub), Rolles Gracie (4-0, two takedowns), Mario Rinaldi (sub), Rogent Llorent (pts), Saulo Ribeiro (pts), Robert Abreu (pts)
Lost: Marcio Corletta (pts)?, Jeff Monson (pts), Roger Gracie (sub), Marcio 'Pe De Pano' Cruz (pts), Alexandre Ferreira 'Cacareco' (pts), André Galvão (pts)

CBJJ World Championships
2004 Black Belt Pesadissimo: 1st Place
2003 Black Belt Super-Pesado: 1st Place Black Belt Absolute: =3rd Place
2002 Brown Belt Super-Pesado: 3rd Place
2001 Purple Belt Absolute: 2nd Place
2000 Blue Belt Super-Pesado: 1st Place Blue Belt Absolute: 1st Place
CBJJ Pan American Championships
2003 Black Belt Super Super Heavy: =3rd Place Black Belt Absolute: 2nd Place
2002 Brown Belt Super-Pesado: 1st Place
2001 Purple Belt Super-Pesado: 1st Place Purple Belt Absolute: 1st Place
CBJJO BJJ World Cup
2004 Black Belt Pesadissimo: 2nd Place Black Belt Absolute: =3rd Place
2003 Black Belt Belt Pesadissimo: 2nd Place

Only guys who come close are Roger Gracie, Robert Drysdale and Jacare

Gonzaga, Big Nog, Galvao, Palhares, Maia, Monson, Arona are all up there and are quite extremely talented, but the others are on a whole 'nother level.

willpunisher
02-05-2010, 06:56 AM
No Maia?

i fucked up big time. maia was the first one i put up but than i erased to put by weight order. ended up forgetting him. Maia, Arona and Monson

Kimuras"R"Us
02-05-2010, 07:31 AM
I was going to say Drysdale or Werdum.... but Drysdale is not on the list haha. Have Werdum and Drysdale met in any grappling tournaments ever? It's 1am and I don't feel like looking it up.

IceCold48
02-05-2010, 07:52 AM
lol at roy nelson being a choice

diction10
02-05-2010, 09:00 AM
Outside of Maia, Shinja Aoki should be on there as well...and probably Fedor just for all the nuthuggers.

Tough to say though. There are good BJJ guys who don't do well in MMA and a lot of good MMA guys that wouldn't do well in a BJJ tournament. If I had to say however, I'd go with BJ or Werdum.

initial_zen
02-05-2010, 01:25 PM
lol at roy nelson being a choice

well mir is up there too and roy beat mir in a jiu jitsu tournament i believe.
id vote for roger gracie as well but hes not up there as well as maia and jacare.

rivethead
02-05-2010, 04:59 PM
Is this an Open Weight Tourney, where 230lb guys are competing against 155lb guys in a normal arena with earth's gravity, etc?

Or is this some kind of magic everyone-is-the-same-size tourney to determine p4p BJJ prowess?

I think BJ is amazing...but he's not going to outgrapple someone who weighs 75% more than he does. See Aoki/Fedor exhibition for illustration.

rh

fishy
02-05-2010, 06:27 PM
Is this an Open Weight Tourney, where 230lb guys are competing against 155lb guys in a normal arena with earth's gravity, etc?

Or is this some kind of magic everyone-is-the-same-size tourney to determine p4p BJJ prowess?

I think BJ is amazing...but he's not going to outgrapple someone who weighs 75% more than he does. See Aoki/Fedor exhibition for illustration.

rh

I don't know about everyone else but I voted BJ assuming this is an open weight tourney where "everyone-is-the-same-size"

H33LHooK
02-05-2010, 06:38 PM
By "open weight" you mean someone like BJ would fight a top level BJJ guy who could potentially outweigh him by 50lbs+?

A good big man beats a good little man in these instances just about every time.

** sorry, you guys beat me to it... **

Fedorlei Gomipierre
02-06-2010, 12:06 AM
Openweight tourney would mean every fighter fights each other, no matter what weight/size difference. Hws would reign. Being completely honest, BJ may have amazing jits, but put him in there with Werdum and he's giving up nearly 80 lbs in weight or so and has amazing jits on his own....

Werdum, Roger Gracie, Drysdale, Jacare are the best.

snakebite
03-04-2010, 04:01 AM
roger gracie and jacare would destroy everyone on that list. You didnt even include maia

The Sensational One
03-04-2010, 04:07 AM
I voted Rickson. In a pure BJJ match i do not see any of these guys beating him.

Trojan Fight Club
03-04-2010, 05:36 AM
I went with BJ with Werdum being a close second. I'm not going to beat a dead horse about Maia or Roger either. Of the choices given I'd take BJ pound for pound, if they all grappled each other regardless of wait, Werdum all the way.