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TBEAR
02-21-2010, 11:54 PM
Whoes got it.

George S has the best guard passing I have ever seen and he did it aginst Joe Daddy ( who is a blackbelt)

SimpleJack
02-22-2010, 03:24 PM
Do you mean sotiropoulos?

rivethead
02-22-2010, 03:26 PM
...and stop double posting, fool.

the edit button is your friend.

rh

Clark80
02-22-2010, 04:28 PM
George is amazing on the ground but BJ is better...

I have to say GSP's guard passing on BJ was awesome (I understand the weight made a difference but technique was on point)

TapOut27
02-26-2010, 01:43 AM
George is amazing on the ground but BJ is better...

I have to say GSP's guard passing on BJ was awesome (I understand the weight made a difference but technique was on point)

Plus it helps if you have vaseline on your shoulders :deadhorse:


BJ taps George.

Masscore
02-26-2010, 02:19 AM
I think people just forget how good Penn is on the ground because of his elite striking. Penn's BJJ >>>> Penn's striking. If Penn decided to actually wrestle guys down to the mat and grapple with them, he would win just about every fight via submission in the first round. Just look what he did with Hughes and Florian in their fights. Hughes looked unstoppable and Penn made him look like a fool on the ground. Florian was coming off a first round sub victory over Stevenson and the second he got on the ground with Penn he looked clueless.

Penn wins this every time. George is good on the ground, but Penn is on a whole other level.

TapOut27
02-26-2010, 02:25 AM
Yeah when Penn wants you down, you go down. He took Kenny down, and tapped him soon there after. And kenny is a legit BJJ BB

KnowledgeKnown
02-27-2010, 02:57 AM
i'm actually a bit shocked by this. BJ is a legit world class BJJ practitioner, GSP's grappling ability is aided by his striking. He's one hell of an athlete but there's no way he could hang with Penn in an actual BJJ match.

lwbrewer
02-27-2010, 05:59 PM
A few more fights for George and he'll be a good match for BJ. He realy impressed me over Joe Daddy. Not saying George would win but it should be a technical fun fight to watch.

noahm
02-27-2010, 06:29 PM
I would give BJ a big advantage in straight BJJ, but in simple ground game, this would not be a blowout. GS has some very subtle tricks (leverage and joint manipulation) that seem to come naturally to him in tight situations, and I really don't think BJ would walk through him on the feet or on the ground. I think he would give BJ quite a bit of trouble.

Trojan Fight Club
03-03-2010, 03:24 AM
BJ takes a BJJ match with George 10 out of 10 times. BJ Penngot his nickname because of his BJJ, he is legitimately one of the very best in the entire world at BJJ, he wins this on any given day guaranteed.

IraVirus
03-03-2010, 06:58 AM
Wow... This is considered a dream match? George has the best guard passing you've ever seen? anyways, I voted Penn.

Kimbo> Rampage
03-03-2010, 02:04 PM
GSP's grappling ability is aided by his striking.

GSP's striking is overrated. Bj has better striking. Its GSP's wrestling, passing, and ground defense that makes him one if not the only person that can beat bj at 170. At 155 nobody is better then Bj, i would enjoy a fight against Alvarez or Aoki, but they would not beat him.

KnowledgeKnown
03-03-2010, 06:27 PM
GSP's striking is overrated. Bj has better striking. Its GSP's wrestling, passing, and ground defense that makes him one if not the only person that can beat bj at 170. At 155 nobody is better then Bj, i would enjoy a fight against Alvarez or Aoki, but they would not beat him.

You didn't understand my statement. His grappling is aided by his striking. That doesn't mean he's an elite striker. He uses his strikes to set up his takedowns. Perfect example was his throw on Hughes. Never in a million years could he have pulled off such a fundamentally incorrect throw on Hughes in a wrestling match. Hughes put his hand up to block a phantom punch, and was thrown.

GSP while his striking may not be elite, does have an ability most fighter just can't seem to grasp. He'll hit you from any position. This causes fighters to always be aware , and defend his strikes.

Lets forget the oilgate for a second. In my mind, he passed BJ's guard not because of his superior grapping, but because he was battering BJ from the top. GSP is not passing BJ's guard in a straight grappling match.

No where did I say GSP was an elite striker, nor do I believe he is an elite grappler. When it's all put together, he's an elite fighter.

By the way, i'm no GSP fan, i've just come to except how good he is as a fighter, but lets not pretend he's now a BJJ master.

Repenter
03-05-2010, 09:41 AM
is this a joke? somewhere, bj's bjj got lost in translation here. maybe it's because of his outstanding striking. maybe it's because of the gracie hatetrain. maybe it's because people were deluded enough to believe florian when he said he could tap penn in one round.

if penn wanted to groundfight and win all of his matches, he could. he just chooses to mentally shatter his opponents into such a state that they're actually trying to take a bjj world champion down. that's some jedi shit. his ground work against stevenson and florian looked like it was phoned in, and he never relinquished a bit of control. george has a lot of promise, but he's got a ways to go before 'killing the master'

slow things down people!

TBEAR
03-05-2010, 11:10 AM
Yes I was drunk when I made this thread.

BJ would kill him in a BJJ match

TheKidInside
03-14-2010, 05:08 AM
I know BJ is hailed as a great BJJ fighter and he definately is but what I've seen from George Sotiropoulos of late and how SLICK and CRAFTY he is with HIS BJJ I just have to give it to George. Again, this is from what I've seen, who really knows what would happen if they go at it on mats and not in the Octogon.

dexter
03-29-2010, 12:20 AM
hmmm BJJ World Champion vs Not BJJ World Champion

steve_44
03-29-2010, 12:32 PM
hmmm BJJ World Champion vs Not BJJ World Champion

Pretty much exactly what i thought. Im aussie, and a big fan of george. But u r kidding yourself if you think george would win.
Not only did he win the world champs as a black belt he went pretty damn good in all the competitions he entered leading up 2 it.

CBJJ World Championships

2000 Black Belt Pena: 1st Place

1999 Brown Belt Leve: 3rd Place

1998 Blue Belt Pena: 2nd Place

CBJJ Brazilian Team Championships

2000 Marrom Preta Leve: Nova União, 1st Place

Other.

Grapplers Quest Lightweight Championship Super fight winner

1997 Joe Moreira tournament - blue belt, 1st place.

1999 Copa Pacific tournament - Gold medal.