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ripitupog
05-01-2010, 12:05 PM
Who do you guys think would win?
Silvas been talking about going to HW. This would be a bigger draw than mir and silva, and not to mention the biggest standup test of silvas career.

Here on one side we got one of the best boxers of all time, James toney. Impeccable timing, amazing power, impregnable defense, and unreal precision. He will make most people look silly while fighting him.

On the other hand we got P4P king Anderson Silva. The modern day Bruce Lee, as joe rogan said. He definately has more tools to win, but he would keep it standing just to prove a point. He gets you in the clinch, game fucking over, unfortunately we havent had our memories refreshed in a while. He, also like toney is very hard to hit, and has amzing precision.

Anyway I'll let the people speak and Dana lets make it happen.

mattc25
05-01-2010, 01:22 PM
...Anderson would dismantle him with kicks. The End.
.....you may want to ask one of the mods to move this to the dream matches section.

The Sensational One
05-01-2010, 02:25 PM
Anderson would destroy Toney. Anderson's stand up is about alot more than punches and his timing is perfect on more tools than just his hands.

Xanatos
05-01-2010, 03:17 PM
Anderson Silva by however he wants it.

m1ckeykn0x
05-02-2010, 11:25 PM
Anderson would destroy Toney. Anderson's stand up is about alot more than punches and his timing is perfect on more tools than just his hands.

why did you get banned??

stpierrecanada
05-03-2010, 05:02 AM
Yeah Anderson would beat him in any aspect. Toney is one of the hardest hitting LHW's and Heavyweights in recent memory but his power has faded and he would be way to slow in this fight and he would get mauled.

QOTSA420
05-03-2010, 06:20 AM
Toney via flying heel hook all day

TheDoucheyWun
05-06-2010, 03:24 AM
silva by whatever the fakk he wants, i bet even without feet/clinch any other game just hands silva's dance game would be enough to win it for him lol

lwbrewer
05-06-2010, 03:52 AM
Silva want to box and even if Toney did MMA it probely won't be much of it. So Silva could box his heart out and if he felt dangered he could take him out.

TBEAR
05-06-2010, 01:38 PM
I agree Anderson how ever he wants to win

Kimbo> Rampage
05-07-2010, 09:17 AM
i would love to see toney fight anderson more than anyone else. every1 knows that toney would get taken down, pounded out, or submitted by just about anyone. but when people say(including toney) that nobody in mma can stand with him. They will find out what happens to a boxer fighting a muay thai fighter. he would light him up with kicks and hopefully knee him worse than he did to franklin. id love to see that loud mouthed toney get knocked out cold. It's a shame that all the great michigan boxers have to be pricks.

GSPvsSILVA2012
06-14-2010, 01:54 PM
Chael Sonnen said "James Toney is the best striker in MMA even better than Anderson Silva." I completely disagree because of the diversity in Silvas striking. He's got more tools, speed and has boxed before. Silva is even willing to do a boxing match with RJJ. James Toney is old and without a doubt washed up. He would get picked apart because MMA striking is not boxing.

Kimbo> Rampage
06-22-2010, 01:26 AM
He would get picked apart because MMA striking is not boxing.

Who gives a shit what sonnen says. Yes toney would get lit up with leg kicks and anderson would still be able to ko toney with a punch after setting it up with kicks.

Bigg68PUNCH
07-05-2010, 02:03 AM
I think that Anderson would try to out BOX him and that would be a big mistake!!!!!!!! Sleepy time for Anderson

Trojan Fight Club
07-06-2010, 01:26 AM
I think that Anderson would try to out BOX him and that would be a big mistake!!!!!!!! Sleepy time for Anderson

I highly disagree. Toney wouldn't be able to catch Anderson at this point in his career and Anderson wouldn't abandon muay thai so he could try and outbox Toney, he would light him up with knees and clinch striking until Toney went to sleep.

makemoney444
07-07-2010, 08:46 AM
Anderson is the man he dominates guy in two weight divisions. Toney poses no threat

T-storm
07-12-2010, 12:15 PM
I will take Anderson. MT > Boxing, yo have more weapons.

Plus Anderson has a ground game, toney not so much

Masscore
07-12-2010, 05:14 PM
If this was a straight striking fight, Tooney wins. We are all in awe when Silva destroys MMA fighter after MMA fighter with his stand-up. But we all have to remember no MMA fighter is anywhere near the striking ability of Tooney. This is the same Anderson Silva who got his ass handed to him in his first boxing match (KTFO in the second round). Tooney won something like 44 fights in a row against some of the best fighters in the world. So if strikes where only allowed then Tooney would take the fight.

But this is MMA and Anderson Silva is not stupid. He puts Tooney against the cage trips him down and taps him out. Anyone with half a brain is not going to stand in front of Tooney including Anderson Silva.

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kickbox
11-13-2010, 03:54 AM
If this was a straight striking fight, Tooney wins. We are all in awe when Silva destroys MMA fighter after MMA fighter with his stand-up. But we all have to remember no MMA fighter is anywhere near the striking ability of Tooney. This is the same Anderson Silva who got his ass handed to him in his first boxing match (KTFO in the second round). Tooney won something like 44 fights in a row against some of the best fighters in the world. So if strikes where only allowed then Tooney would take the fight.

But this is MMA and Anderson Silva is not stupid. He puts Tooney against the cage trips him down and taps him out. Anyone with half a brain is not going to stand in front of Tooney including Anderson Silva.

Toney is washed up as a boxer, he is nowhere near as quick and as technical as he used to be back in his day, so to say that Anderson would get picked apart by Toney is absolutely atrocious and beyond dystopia. Anderson in this day in his age could defeat Toney in pure boxing, since Anderson has that ability, also Anderson has boxed before, also going to an ammature boxing bout and lasting 9 minutes I think. What separates mma strikers from boxers is the simple strategy that boxers hold supreme in the boxing ring, boxing in a boxing ring is like a game of chess and every attribute of boxing going in it, and what an mma fighter would lack is the strategy part of boxing, going in to a boxing bout, becuase they cannot outwit or use superior strategy and technique of a boxer, depending on the mma fighter.
So to be conclusive, here are the things which separates a boxer from an mma striker. Handspeed- Both strikers have this ability depending on the individual of course.
Power- Both strikers have this ability once again depending on the individual.
physical technique- all the components of punching well together, this can belong to any striker depending on the individual.
footwork- can belong to anyone, especially those accomodated to the boxing realm and its footwork usage.
Strategy- This belongs to the boxer becuase they have superior knowledge in the boxing ring with this attribute, which is the imperative skill which boxers could own any mma fighter who doesnt know what to do inside the ring, they can have everything besides strategy. But more so there would be less mma fighters with these abilities than boxers.

rivethead
11-13-2010, 03:05 PM
If this was a straight striking fight, Tooney wins. We are all in awe when Silva destroys MMA fighter after MMA fighter with his stand-up. But we all have to remember no MMA fighter is anywhere near the striking ability of Tooney. This is the same Anderson Silva who got his ass handed to him in his first boxing match (KTFO in the second round). Tooney won something like 44 fights in a row against some of the best fighters in the world. So if strikes where only allowed then Tooney would take the fight.

But this is MMA and Anderson Silva is not stupid. He puts Tooney against the cage trips him down and taps him out. Anyone with half a brain is not going to stand in front of Tooney including Anderson Silva.

In a pure-striking match, I think a huge deciding factor is that Anderson doesn't have legitimate one-strike KO power, and Toney knows it. If Toney can wade through strikes to crush Silva's body, and then go to the head.

In an MMA match, Anderson wins. In a striking bout, it's a toss up. Anderson has enough good movement to pick him apart by sticking and moving and winning a war of attrition, but if he chooses to stay in the pocket with him it's a bad night for Anderson.


Toney is washed up as a boxer, he is nowhere near as quick and as technical as he used to be back in his day, so to say that Anderson would get picked apart by Toney is absolutely atrocious and beyond dystopia. Anderson in this day in his age could defeat Toney in pure boxing, since Anderson has that ability, also Anderson has boxed before, also going to an ammature boxing bout and lasting 9 minutes I think.

...yeah, but neither one of them are K1 trained, so whatever.

rh

JustScrap
11-27-2010, 04:21 AM
Silva would have no problem dancing again in this one