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FFFRpickup
02-09-2012, 06:23 PM
I have a pit in my stomach after Condit accepted the rematch. Why? Because popular opinion and people with influence have made a clusterfuck of this. This rematch we are going to have is based on the UFC and Fans wanting Diaz vs Gsp so badly that the tweets and bitching by people with INFLUENCE have Manipulated peoples thinking. Let's see what happened and compare it to what really matters. I realize that it's a business and a sport but I feel the UFC haas crossed a line and has regressed with this decision.

Let's look at history.

Nick Diaz is amazing but falls short wheen really needed. His climb up the UFC ladder was fun. He destroys lawler and does well until wresters with takedowns diffuse his run. He leaves and goes to strikeforce...fights a but of great fighters with NO takedown or wrestling skills to speak of. So he goes on interview after interview saying GSP is avoiding him. So he comes back to avenge the Shields loss. We see a great display of boxing and a great jaw. So he comes back and beats up a BJ. The world is on edge to see DIAZ vs GSP. The #1 contender |(interim ww title) fight happens....WHAT DIAZ was outstruck...out pointed and couldn't get near Condit. He Lost the fight. To somebody who didn't try a single takedown to somebody whos not known for his takedowns like Gsp, Diego. How can Diaz who probably has the BEST boxing loose to Condit? I can explain...DIAZ Doesn't have the best striking in MMA. He has the best boxing. So if you fight his style...stand and bang..
his boxing is great. God forbid you get into a kickboxing match with him.

I would be the first to say do not stand in front of diaz and avoid going toe to toe with him. I would also say that NICK DIAZ would win against 99% of WWs who stand and bang with him. I Concur. But this is MMA. Not old school tank abbot highlights. We might as well bring in fishhooks, biting and hair pulling heck small joint manipulation as well...(after all..you're not in a fight until you break a few fingers). let's bust it old school roman style..to the death. We throw out the term engage in the fight. I believe Carlos enganged in this fight...just not directly in front of diaz. We got the gracies throwing opions around saying Diaz is a true warrior....He won......Rogan has gone as far as saying I change my mind Diaz won.....ceasar gracie bitching as well.

So.. a Gracie stundent lost..he bitches..the
gracies bitch because he lost..his brother in rolling papers conceides....People with influence and BIAS have pushed this where it shouldn't have went to... a rematch. Jacksons Camp beat gracie camp fighter and Gracies bitch. period.

Now that leaves the most hated Jackson camp. Who has evolved the fighter to a machine like level and gameplans that make you a winner. let's not have that....LET's go back to the dark ages and make oppenents stand in front of opponents and stand and bang..like the lebens and tank abbots.

I'm tired of this. Diaz fight Condit. have fun. the squeeky wheel definatelly got the grease here. Good job.

I guess the UFC is geared totally towards Money instead of sport. I'm too naive for this. The MMA guys are always harping on boxing and the sweet science crap...I think MMA is afraid to evolve.

bottom line:
What Carlos did in the cage that night was amazing.
What Nick Diaz did was Pathetic.

that's all I got. go easy on me.

grambino
02-09-2012, 06:30 PM
I have a pit in my stomach after Condit accepted the rematch. Why? Because popular opinion and people with influence have made a clusterfuck of this. This rematch we are going to have is based on the UFC and Fans wanting Diaz vs Gsp so badly that the tweets and bitching by people with INFLUENCE have Manipulated peoples thinking. Let's see what happened and compare it to what really matters. I realize that it's a business and a sport but I feel the UFC haas crossed a line and has regressed with this decision.

Let's look at history.

Nick Diaz is amazing but falls short wheen really needed. His climb up the UFC ladder was fun. He destroys lawler and does well until wresters with takedowns diffuse his run. He leaves and goes to strikeforce...fights a but of great fighters with NO takedown or wrestling skills to speak of. So he goes on interview after interview saying GSP is avoiding him. So he comes back to avenge the Shields loss. We see a great display of boxing and a great jaw. So he comes back and beats up a BJ. The world is on edge to see DIAZ vs GSP. The #1 contender |(interim ww title) fight happens....WHAT DIAZ was outstruck...out pointed and couldn't get near Condit. He Lost the fight. To somebody who didn't try a single takedown to somebody whos not known for his takedowns like Gsp, Diego. How can Diaz who probably has the BEST boxing loose to Condit? I can explain...DIAZ Doesn't have the best striking in MMA. He has the best boxing. So if you fight his style...stand and bang..
his boxing is great. God forbid you get into a kickboxing match with him.

I would be the first to say do not stand in front of diaz and avoid going toe to toe with him. I would also say that NICK DIAZ would win against 99% of WWs who stand and bang with him. I Concur. But this is MMA. Not old school tank abbot highlights. We might as well bring in fishhooks, biting and hair pulling heck small joint manipulation as well...(after all..you're not in a fight until you break a few fingers). let's bust it old school roman style..to the death. We throw out the term engage in the fight. I believe Carlos enganged in this fight...just not directly in front of diaz. We got the gracies throwing opions around saying Diaz is a true warrior....He won......Rogan has gone as far as saying I change my mind Diaz won.....ceasar gracie bitching as well.

So.. a Gracie stundent lost..he bitches..the
gracies bitch because he lost..his brother in rolling papers conceides....People with influence and BIAS have pushed this where it shouldn't have went to... a rematch. Jacksons Camp beat gracie camp fighter and Gracies bitch. period.

Now that leaves the most hated Jackson camp. Who has evolved the fighter to a machine like level and gameplans that make you a winner. let's not have that....LET's go back to the dark ages and make oppenents stand in front of opponents and stand and bang..like the lebens and tank abbots.

I'm tired of this. Diaz fight Condit. have fun. the squeeky wheel definatelly got the grease here. Good job.

I guess the UFC is geared totally towards Money instead of sport. I'm too naive for this. The MMA guys are always harping on boxing and the sweet science crap...I think MMA is afraid to evolve.

bottom line:
What Carlos did in the cage that night was amazing.
What Nick Diaz did was Pathetic.

that's all I got. go easy on me.


As soon as Diaz fans put the bong down, you sir are going to take an internet beatdown:punchsmilie:

Bearded Big Country
02-09-2012, 06:58 PM
Diaz vs Condit articles never end with a winner. Why even bother?

thefirm0
02-09-2012, 08:15 PM
I have a pit in my stomach after Condit accepted the rematch. Why? Because popular opinion and people with influence have made a clusterfuck of this. This rematch we are going to have is based on the UFC and Fans wanting Diaz vs Gsp so badly that the tweets and bitching by people with INFLUENCE have Manipulated peoples thinking. Let's see what happened and compare it to what really matters. I realize that it's a business and a sport but I feel the UFC haas crossed a line and has regressed with this decision.

Let's look at history.

Nick Diaz is amazing but falls short wheen really needed. His climb up the UFC ladder was fun. He destroys lawler and does well until wresters with takedowns diffuse his run. He leaves and goes to strikeforce...fights a but of great fighters with NO takedown or wrestling skills to speak of. So he goes on interview after interview saying GSP is avoiding him. So he comes back to avenge the Shields loss. We see a great display of boxing and a great jaw. So he comes back and beats up a BJ. The world is on edge to see DIAZ vs GSP. The #1 contender |(interim ww title) fight happens....WHAT DIAZ was outstruck...out pointed and couldn't get near Condit. He Lost the fight. To somebody who didn't try a single takedown to somebody whos not known for his takedowns like Gsp, Diego. How can Diaz who probably has the BEST boxing loose to Condit? I can explain...DIAZ Doesn't have the best striking in MMA. He has the best boxing. So if you fight his style...stand and bang..
his boxing is great. God forbid you get into a kickboxing match with him.

I would be the first to say do not stand in front of diaz and avoid going toe to toe with him. I would also say that NICK DIAZ would win against 99% of WWs who stand and bang with him. I Concur. But this is MMA. Not old school tank abbot highlights. We might as well bring in fishhooks, biting and hair pulling heck small joint manipulation as well...(after all..you're not in a fight until you break a few fingers). let's bust it old school roman style..to the death. We throw out the term engage in the fight. I believe Carlos enganged in this fight...just not directly in front of diaz. We got the gracies throwing opions around saying Diaz is a true warrior....He won......Rogan has gone as far as saying I change my mind Diaz won.....ceasar gracie bitching as well.

So.. a Gracie stundent lost..he bitches..the
gracies bitch because he lost..his brother in rolling papers conceides....People with influence and BIAS have pushed this where it shouldn't have went to... a rematch. Jacksons Camp beat gracie camp fighter and Gracies bitch. period.

Now that leaves the most hated Jackson camp. Who has evolved the fighter to a machine like level and gameplans that make you a winner. let's not have that....LET's go back to the dark ages and make oppenents stand in front of opponents and stand and bang..like the lebens and tank abbots.

I'm tired of this. Diaz fight Condit. have fun. the squeeky wheel definatelly got the grease here. Good job.

I guess the UFC is geared totally towards Money instead of sport. I'm too naive for this. The MMA guys are always harping on boxing and the sweet science crap...I think MMA is afraid to evolve.

bottom line:
What Carlos did in the cage that night was amazing.
What Nick Diaz did was Pathetic.

that's all I got. go easy on me.

rose city rep it

0mega1
02-09-2012, 08:33 PM
bottom line:
What Carlos did in the cage that night was amazing.
What Nick Diaz did was Pathetic.

:huh: Neither fighter was amazing; and the fight itself wasnt pathetic but, sure as shit wasnt great. Im getting pretty tired of all this Condit vs. Diaz fight who won and who lost. Condit won a judges decision but he definitely didnt win a fight.

Let my boy Hitman get a shot at the WW interim title against Carlos if and when he beats Thiago.

dimerules28
02-09-2012, 08:53 PM
Lol I've definetly been acting like a bit of a tard lately. But your bottom line proves your an idiot.

FFFRpickup
02-09-2012, 09:14 PM
Lol I've definetly been acting like a bit of a tard lately. But your bottom line proves your an idiot.

hehe a tard calling somebody an idiot. wow.

dimerules28
02-09-2012, 09:44 PM
hehe a tard calling somebody an idiot. wow.

Good job, someone on this site finally admits they were being a little irrationale and you cut me up for it. This is why nobody admits their ever wrong on this site cuz then ppl like you won't ever let them forget it. How the fuck was what he said not dumb as hell. Just the bottom line part. Just read that before you start judging me for admitting I fucked up.... I haven't negged anyone in a very long time, even though I've been negged multiple times over the past few days, but congrats sir you asked for it. I know it doesn't really mean shit what anybody's rep is but seems to be the way ppl let you know you said sumthing
Stupid around here.

FFFRpickup
02-09-2012, 10:00 PM
Good job, someone on this site finally admits they were being a little irrationale and you cut me up for it. This is why nobody admits their ever wrong on this site cuz then ppl like you won't ever let them forget it. How the fuck was what he said not dumb as hell. Just the bottom line part. Just read that before you start judging me for admitting I fucked up.... I haven't negged anyone in a very long time, even though I've been negged multiple times over the past few days, but congrats sir you asked for it. I know it doesn't really mean shit what anybody's rep is but seems to be the way ppl let you know you said sumthing
Stupid around here.

do you read and write? or is this being translated and typed for you?

You simply can't call yourself a tard and then call me an IDIOT then claim that you admitted that your'e wrong and being cut up for it?

Carlos pulled of a fantasic victory..looked like a elusive martial artist that night. Diaz DID NOT....he looked like a mean mug thug who couldn't catch him!

TheKidInside
02-10-2012, 04:12 PM
I stopped reading when you said "Nick Diaz is amazing but falls short"...how ? what 5 years ago he got lay-n-prayed? dude com'n...

the only reason you should have gotten a "bad feeling" is because CONDIT'S CAMP DECLINED THE FIGHT ORIGINALLY...and then accepted it. Front Row Brian and I both mentioned it on Twitter to each other with me saying "yo, this is some fishy stuff..." and in the back of my mind I was like "oh, please, don't tell me this dude got high before the fight! Com'n it's so easy to beat those things!!!!"

ugh.

Masscore
02-10-2012, 06:38 PM
I stopped reading when you said "Nick Diaz is amazing but falls short"...how ? what 5 years ago he got lay-n-prayed? dude com'n...
the only reason you should have gotten a "bad feeling" is because CONDIT'S CAMP DECLINED THE FIGHT ORIGINALLY...and then accepted it. Front Row Brian and I both mentioned it on Twitter to each other with me saying "yo, this is some fishy stuff..." and in the back of my mind I was like "oh, please, don't tell me this dude got high before the fight! Com'n it's so easy to beat those things!!!!"

ugh.

When did he lay-n-prayed on?

Diego and Karo were anything but Lay-n-pray, meanwhile Riggs and Sherk where mostly stand-up fights that he lost standing. Sherk tried to take down Diaz a few times but was really never on top that long.

Condit denied the bout at first because he wanted more money to fight a rematch.

TheKidInside
02-10-2012, 09:02 PM
When did he lay-n-prayed on?

Diego and Karo were anything but Lay-n-pray, meanwhile Riggs and Sherk where mostly stand-up fights that he lost standing. Sherk tried to take down Diaz a few times but was really never on top that long.

Condit denied the bout at first because he wanted more money to fight a rematch.

says you, sir :)

Masscore
02-10-2012, 09:17 PM
says you, sir :)

If you thought Diego v. Diaz was lay-n-pray then I want to know what you think active fighting is. Because that fight was insane on the ground. Which is the only fight out of the few he has lost in the UFC where he has taken down a few times.

TheKidInside
02-10-2012, 10:49 PM
If you thought Diego v. Diaz was lay-n-pray then I want to know what you think active fighting is. Because that fight was insane on the ground. Which is the only fight out of the few he has lost in the UFC where he has taken down a few times.

I am trolling :) that was one of my fave fights

FFFRpickup
02-14-2012, 02:53 AM
I stopped reading when you said "Nick Diaz is amazing but falls short"...how ? what 5 years ago he got lay-n-prayed? dude com'n...

the only reason you should have gotten a "bad feeling" is because CONDIT'S CAMP DECLINED THE FIGHT ORIGINALLY...and then accepted it. Front Row Brian and I both mentioned it on Twitter to each other with me saying "yo, this is some fishy stuff..." and in the back of my mind I was like "oh, please, don't tell me this dude got high before the fight! Com'n it's so easy to beat those things!!!!"

ugh.


c-mon. I am the first to say that Diaz brings it. But let's face it. He is all excuses. period. How can you deny that Diaz always has an excuse for loosing. The judges shit...he didn't stand in front of me shit, he's running from me shit, the take me down shit, lay and pray shit. do you not see a pattern. Then he goes over to strikeforce and fights over the hill plastic knee shamrock and a bunch of pylons and poof... he's the bomb. He was loosing the stand up battle for the first time in years and resorts to take downs. hypocritical. His camp is delusional as well. from the cornering furing his fight to ceasar defending him for his dope smoking and weight cut crap. Now even Royce steps in and speaks for him. You know Royce started this whole UFC deal and from the very beginning and you gotta commend that. But since then he has used roids and lost my respect. Also is there truth to the rumour that Royce didn't allow any Judo practitioners? Now SHields has said ya Diaz won. AT what point do you stop lying to your training partner and tell him the truth...you lost that fight on points dude. Same as Nate...you never assume you're up 4 round bro. C-mon. Diaz would be CHAMP is he was at Jacksons or a better camp. They don't make excuses..they make you better. Did anybody tell nick he has to mix up his striking and work on his footwork? I doubt it. They are all to busy whining about how Nick got robbed. And talk about a reach.....Condit only accepted because he KNEW i will be suspended. Condit WON..he doesn't have to accept shit. Diaz and His whole team...crew whatever they're called have to accept defeat. which clearly they have trouble with.
Now I thought I read on here that that it was provent hat Condit accepted the rematch BEFORE anybody found out about the testing results. If this is not true that it's a cheasy move by Condit. But from what I see Condit is a stand up guy.

Now that being said. Isn't Martial arts all about integrity and respect? correct me if I'm wrong. Where is it in MMA? Doesn't being a Mixed Martial Artist carry some type of responsibility? I do see it amongs the greats. Respect has been thrown out the window in my eyes. I realize that there's money involved and marketinjg PPVs and all. but alot of the disrespect is real i find and alot of the self proclaimed Mixed Martial Artists are NOT what they claim to be. Put Tank Abott in a BJJ GI....hehe enough said...all class!