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HillbillyDeluxe
06-10-2012, 07:06 AM
OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHMYGOOOOOODNESS!!!


We got a new champion!!!


Split Decision for Timothy Bradley 115-113!

Masscore
06-10-2012, 07:08 AM
This is the official death of boxing. No idiot on the planet could argue that Manny didn't win that fight. ESPN right now is screaming this fight was fixed. No one is going to watch boxing after this bullshit.

CtGreat
06-10-2012, 07:14 AM
That fight was rigged, the judges were clearly bought off. I wanted Bradly to win, but I was absolutely positive that Manny whooped his ass consistently for 9 straight rounds.

dbader08
06-10-2012, 07:16 AM
Worst decision I've ever seen.

At absolute best, Bradley won the first round and a couple of the later rounds. Nothing more than 3.

HillbillyDeluxe
06-10-2012, 07:17 AM
I dont even like Boxing, I just always try to watch Pacman fight because I been wanting him to lose since the fucking soap opera between him and Floyd Mayweather.


Was wanting to see if anyone actually thinks it was accurate and scored correctly since Bradley did turn it up towards the end and his head movement and footwork were pretty good as well as him not taking very much damage. Same goes for Pacquiao tho... so I mean, I would of rather them went 1 more round or had it as a draw for controversy sake in all honesty.

but hey shit happens I guess.

Pasha K
06-10-2012, 07:20 AM
What a piece of shit was this.

I was happily watching it, I even made a bet with Kevo and we both agreed that Pacquiao had this won.
Then via Facebook Hillibily tells me that Bradley won the split decision, and at the moment in my TV it was the 10th round and I was like "ha, he is just trolling", and now it turns that it was true.

Fuck Boxing, this is why it should die. The judges are even worse than Cecil Peoples!!!!!

dbader08
06-10-2012, 07:35 AM
I dont even like Boxing, I just always try to watch Pacman fight because I been wanting him to lose since the fucking soap opera between him and Floyd Mayweather.


Was wanting to see if anyone actually thinks it was accurate and scored correctly since Bradley did turn it up towards the end and his head movement and footwork were pretty good as well as him not taking very much damage. Same goes for Pacquiao tho... so I mean, I would of rather them went 1 more round or had it as a draw for controversy sake in all honesty.

but hey shit happens I guess.

I just can't see how you can score more than 3 or 4 rounds for Bradley. Manny was clearly landing very hard shots early and controlling the fight midway through. He slowed down a bit in some of the later rounds but then would come back on the next round, so I don't see any way you can make a case for Bradley winning or it being a draw.

Hopefully there is a rematch.

Pacquiao easily won, displayed such superior skill and technique to Bradley. He was coming right in with that straight left and smoking Bradley all night. Most of Bradley's punches were blocked. He didn't land hard shots anywhere close to as consistantly as Manny, and missed horribly on a lot of his punches.

Pasha K
06-10-2012, 07:40 AM
To me Bradley won round 1 and 2, and maybe 2 more at the end. Nothing more than that. In all the other rounds, Pacman was waaay better.

HillbillyDeluxe
06-10-2012, 07:41 AM
I even thought Manny had it in the bag... Ask my girlfriend she thinks im nuts now because when they announced the decision I jumped out of my chair and was in disbelief running around the house lol.

Hell Kevo went to bed at like Round 5 because he thought it was game over too...

dbader08
06-10-2012, 07:44 AM
To me Bradley won round 1 and 2, and maybe 2 more at the end. Nothing more than that. In all the other rounds, Pacman was waaay better.

Pacquiao landed the harder shots in both rounds, though...and the punch stats were close with Pacquiao landing at a higher percentage.

The Return Of......
06-10-2012, 07:54 AM
this fight was paid for by floyd mayweather.

The Donosaur
06-10-2012, 07:55 AM
Sounds like I missed an interesting fight, stupid work. So boxing's last big money fight lost alot of its luster to casual fans?

Pasha K
06-10-2012, 08:05 AM
The positive thing is that the fight was not boring, some rounds were very very exciting.
And I think that the judges were Marquez, Mayweather and Cecil Peoples. It is the only logical explanation I can think of.

singinkangaroooo
06-10-2012, 08:12 AM
i turned it off after the final bell of the 12th round and was flabbergasted when i saw the result! utter and complete bull shit

disposableassassin
06-10-2012, 08:25 AM
In other news boxing continued to take a dump in the laps of consumers. Here's Tom with the weather.

Xtremo
06-10-2012, 10:03 AM
The action was decent. Manny was clearly levels above Bradley in terms of speed and accuracy. The only thing Bradley was doing decent was moving. Even then with all of his bobbing and weaving, Manny still was able to catch him with his straight left at the end.

They should put those judges in jail. I'm dead serious. They just robbed tons of people of their hard earned money.

IMO, Manny won almost all of them, for sures all first 6, then I had thought confidently he won the last six, maybe losing one or two rounds there at worst.

What has me infuriated is that if you look at what Marquez did in terms of significant punches landed against Pacquiao and you compare that to Bradley's.... It's not even close.... At least with Marquez he stunned Manny a couple of times and Bradley didn't do SQUAT, yet the judges chose this performance worthy of putting an end to a winning streak dating back to 06...

SHAKE-MY-MOTHERFUCKING-HEAD

Firemass
06-10-2012, 10:22 AM
Yeah I found it all a tad controversial (or is that an understatement).

Like was already said, I wanted Bradley to win, but convincingly. Not a win that'll be debated for yeard/decades to come. You want a champ to win his belt in impressive fashion. Not like this.

KevoOnTheRadio
06-10-2012, 03:12 PM
I even thought Manny had it in the bag... Ask my girlfriend she thinks im nuts now because when they announced the decision I jumped out of my chair and was in disbelief running around the house lol.

Hell Kevo went to bed at like Round 5 because he thought it was game over too...

I stayed up and watched the whole thing, but I did go to bed after the final bell and didn't see the Dec. I figured Pac had it, no way Bradley won more then 3 rounds. I guess I was wrong.

But I got no sympathy for Manny after the bullshit he pulled before the fight. Fuck 'em.

disposableassassin
06-10-2012, 03:14 PM
I stayed up and watched the whole thing, but I did go to bed after the final bell and didn't see the Dec. I figured Pac had it, no way Bradley won more then 3 rounds. I guess I was wrong.

But I got no sympathy for Manny after the bullshit he pulled before the fight. Fuck 'em.

What did he do before the fight?

KevoOnTheRadio
06-10-2012, 04:11 PM
What did he do before the fight?

Apparently Manny didn't want to fight until after the Celtics/Heat game ended. So Bradley is all gloved up and ready to out to the ring, Manny doesn't even have his fucking gloves on yet. Me and Hillbilly and Pashak were jokin on it pretty hard

disposableassassin
06-10-2012, 04:29 PM
Apparently Manny didn't want to fight until after the Celtics/Heat game ended. So Bradley is all gloved up and ready to out to the ring, Manny doesn't even have his fucking gloves on yet. Me and Hillbilly and Pashak were jokin on it pretty hard

No way?!? That's some stupid shit right there. The egos in boxing are unreal.

Spoon
06-10-2012, 04:36 PM
Worst call I've ever seen. I see Pacquiao filing a complaint, and getting the decision changed to a no-contest.


Apparently Manny didn't want to fight until after the Celtics/Heat game ended. So Bradley is all gloved up and ready to out to the ring, Manny doesn't even have his fucking gloves on yet. Me and Hillbilly and Pashak were jokin on it pretty hard

Yup, and then he wanted a little extra time to work out his calves or shins too. I mean really, Pacquiao doesn't make enough money to afford a DVR?

joeodd2
06-10-2012, 05:06 PM
The sad thing about this is.....that now the fight between Manny and Floyd may actually happen, with Floyd getting a better cut. Floyd likes to fight guys with a little bit of tarnish these days, not really into taking on absolute killers at this point in his career. Maybe this fight weakens Manny's marketability enough to make Floyd more interested in taking the fight?

Bradley is like any other fighter, he will believe he won because he wanted to win so bad. I think the rematch will be much of the same, but with Bradley trying to stick and move even more. Manny will have to improve his foot work and cut off the ring better than he ever has. Actually a rematch could make Manny more dangerous for floyd if he can catch bradley and take him out, because floyd likes to use movement as a part of his defense as well. This decision will effect PPV sales for boxing in a very negative way for a long time.....

beardown98
06-10-2012, 05:41 PM
This kinda stuff makes me happy i got outta watching boxing years ago. It all started with the De La Hoya Trinidad decision then the last fight i actually watched was Klitchko VS Lewis.

It sucks i used to love boxing especially the free fights you could catch on USA network and ESPN back in the day then it just got so dirty and full of itself i had to walk away.

CtGreat
06-10-2012, 05:56 PM
The sad thing about this is.....that now the fight between Manny and Floyd may actually happen, with Floyd getting a better cut. Floyd likes to fight guys with a little bit of tarnish these days, not really into taking on absolute killers at this point in his career. Maybe this fight weakens Manny's marketability enough to make Floyd more interested in taking the fight?
.....

....Floyd just faced Miguel Coto, Pacmam just faced Bradley.....whos the more risky opponent.

disposableassassin
06-10-2012, 06:03 PM
This kinda stuff makes me happy i got outta watching boxing years ago. It all started with the De La Hoya Trinidad decision then the last fight i actually watched was Klitchko VS Lewis.

It sucks i used to love boxing especially the free fights you could catch on USA network and ESPN back in the day then it just got so dirty and full of itself i had to walk away.

I quit watching after the Holyfield/Lewis screwjob.

Cat--Smasher
06-10-2012, 07:08 PM
Is Bob Arum Behind The Timothy Bradley Decision Win Over Manny Pacquiao?


Arum talked to ESPN after the fight, was he crying crocodile tears?


"I've never been as ashamed of the sport of boxing as I am tonight.

"I'll make a lot of money off the rematch, but this was outrageous," he said.

Here's what Scott Christ of Bad Left Hook has to say:


Well, here's the deal. Arum says he's concerned about the credibility of the sport, but whatever. The sport's credibility has probably been in the crapper for long enough at this point that it probably is more akin to a long-term floater than a fresh turd in the bowl.

...

Also, Arum not only doesn't have to hear "Mayweather-Pacquiao" again for the rest of 2012, but he doesn't have to deal with that damned Juan Manuel Marquez and his demands and ego, either. He's got another Top Rank vs Top Rank fight for November. I'm not accusing him of anything. I'm saying as a promoter, he can't really be that unhappy with what's going down here. There's a lot of potential upside if they figure out the right approach.

Is Bob Arum Behind The Timothy Bradley Decision Win Over Manny Pacquiao? - Bloody Elbow (http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2012/6/10/3076429/manny-pacquiao-timothy-bradley-decision-bob-arum-corruption-boxing)


http://www.vancouversun.com/sports/Pacquiao+Bradley+fight+sparks+controversy+conspira cy+theories+what+they+saying+online/6759745/story.html


"Something like this is so outlandish, it's a death knell for the sport. This is f------ nuts. I have both guys, and I'll make a lot of money in the rematch, but it's ridiculous. You have these old f---- who don't know what the hell they're looking at. It's incompetence. Nobody who knows anything about boxing could have Bradley ahead in the fight."

Arum also claimed Bradley himself thought he lost: "I went over to Bradley before the decision and he said, 'I tried hard but I couldn't beat the guy.'"

Pacquiao's loss sparked outrage in his native Philippines. Filipinos around the world claimed the fight was "lutong bulok" (cooked rotten). Even Filipino politicians got into the act.

"President Benigno Aquino sought to console the public, stressing that Pacquiao remained a treasured sporting icon despite the loss.

'Manny Pacquiao failed to defend the WBO welterweight belt against Timothy Bradley, but the Filipino people’s support for their champion remains strong as ever,' Aquino spokeswoman Abigail Valte said in a statement.

“'This is clearly highway robbery,' senator Jose Estrada, who was at ringside in Las Vegas, told local radio in Manila by phone.

'Pacquiao clearly had more hits.'”

“Manny is still our one and only people’s champ; and we are proud of him.'”

Read more: http://www.vancouversun.com/sports/Pacquiao+Bradley+fight+sparks+controversy+conspira cy+theories+what+they+saying+online/6759745/story.html#ixzz1xPjdK5oC

Xtremo
06-10-2012, 07:57 PM
Apparently Manny didn't want to fight until after the Celtics/Heat game ended. So Bradley is all gloved up and ready to out to the ring, Manny doesn't even have his fucking gloves on yet. Me and Hillbilly and Pashak were jokin on it pretty hard

Wtf.. Dont spit out false statements... HBO PPV didn't want to air the fight as the basketball game was still going on, so Bob Arum bought more ppv time and as soon as the game was over, they got the fighters to walk out. The only thing Manny did that was tad bit questionable was that he didn't tell Freddie Roach he was going to some traning room and hop on a treadmill (?) to stretch/ warm up his calves. According to him, he didnt do that before the Mosley or Marquez fight and it botherd him. As soon as they found him, they got him into the locker room and put on his gloves at the same time by two diffirent guys. They didn't give him anytime to warm up by hitting the mitts... His fault though in that aspect, but it wasn't because he wanted to watch the basketball game LMAO...

dbader08
06-10-2012, 08:19 PM
Yeah I found it all a tad controversial (or is that an understatement).

Like was already said, I wanted Bradley to win, but convincingly. Not a win that'll be debated for yeard/decades to come. You want a champ to win his belt in impressive fashion. Not like this.

lol I wouldn't even use "debatable" as a word to describe the situation. There is nothing debatable about who won that fight. Manny Pacquiao easily won that fight.

and yeah Kevo, I'm pretty damn sure that Paquiao was advised to take a little extra time to let the NBA game to end and to let them hype the fight a little more (they were hugging bradley's balls all prefight, talking about how its such a tough fight and manny is taking him lightly, etc).

Either way, even if he was mostly responsible, he made up for it in my eyes with a brilliant display of superior technique, footwork, power, speed, everything.

Sniggles
06-11-2012, 02:05 AM
Dana White was behind this!

KevoOnTheRadio
06-11-2012, 02:27 AM
Wtf.. Dont spit out false statements... HBO PPV didn't want to air the fight as the basketball game was still going on, so Bob Arum bought more ppv time and as soon as the game was over, they got the fighters to walk out. The only thing Manny did that was tad bit questionable was that he didn't tell Freddie Roach he was going to some traning room and hop on a treadmill (?) to stretch/ warm up his calves. According to him, he didnt do that before the Mosley or Marquez fight and it botherd him. As soon as they found him, they got him into the locker room and put on his gloves at the same time by two diffirent guys. They didn't give him anytime to warm up by hitting the mitts... His fault though in that aspect, but it wasn't because he wanted to watch the basketball game LMAO...

My mistake, I must have misheard. Thank you for the correction.

Pasha K
06-11-2012, 02:30 AM
Kevo, what Av I have to use for the next 2 weeks?

CtGreat
06-11-2012, 02:38 AM
Dana White was behind this!

I'm surprised nobody has tried to make this claim yet

The Donosaur
06-11-2012, 03:04 AM
Dana White was behind this!

Damn right he was! Right after he finished pulling the plug on old people in the nursing home, but right before he stole Christmas.

Sakara=Excitement
06-11-2012, 04:20 AM
Kevo, what Av I have to use for the next 2 weeks?

As far as Im concerned, that bet should be off.

Xtremo
06-11-2012, 06:59 AM
My mistake, I must have misheard. Thank you for the correction.

It's ok. I just re-read my post and it seems like I came off like a q-hole. Lol Didn't mean to.. Oh well, on with the discussion.

Sakara=Excitement
06-11-2012, 08:58 AM
Bob Arum wants investigation into Manny Pacquiao vs Timothy Bradley result, rematch in jeopardy - MMAmania.com (http://www.mmamania.com/2012/6/11/3077429/bob-arum-manny-pacquiao-vs-timothy-bradley-result-investigation-rematch)


What a difference a day makes.

This past Sat., June 9, 2012, saw one of the most controversial decisions in boxing in years, as Timothy Bradley was awarded a split decision victory (115-113, 113-115, 115-113) over pound-for-pound great Manny Pacquiao at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas, Nevada.

The location of the bout is key, seeing as the outcry over the result has produced a level of disgust towards the Nevada State Athletic Commission (NSAC) and its practices that borders on sadistic. Fans are outraged; some are demanding answers while others have simply sworn off the sport altogether.

For his part, Pacquiao disagreed with the judges but told fans to hang in there. Bradley, meanwhile, felt he did enough to win the fight but ultimately settled on the only real position he could -- the judges made their call and he has to live with it, just like everyone else.

But that's not really the case.

Indeed, an investigation could be launched at the behest of Nevada Attorney General Catherine Cortez Masto. And Bob Arum, of all people, is leading the charge to make sure it happens. In fact, according to Yahoo! Sports, a rematch won't take place unless it does, even though Arum claimed he would "make a lot of money on it."



"I want to investigate whether there was any undue influence, whether the (Nevada Athletic Commission) gave any particular instruction and how they came to this conclusion. But the whole sport is in an uproar. People are going crazy. If this was a subjective view that each of [the judges] honestly held, OK. I would still disagree, but then we're off the hook in terms of there being no conspiracy. But there needs to be an independent investigation because it strains credulity that an event everybody saw as so one-sided one way all three judges saw it as close. It strains credulity."

Keith Kizer, the Executive Director of the NSAC, has gone on record with the LA Times in the aftermath of the fight and said he "doesn't anticipate any discipline or review of Ross or Ford."

C.J. Ross and Duane Ford are the two judges who scored the bout for Bradley. In the case of the latter, he's come out and explained his reasoning, saying he thought Bradley "gave Pacquiao a boxing lesson."

Assuming an investigation doesn't take place, as many believe it will not, does that mean a rematch isn't going to happen? That seems unlikely, as Pacquiao has already stated unequivocally that he wants it with Arum going along with that with the old line of giving Manny what Manny wants.

Pacquiao Vs. Bradley: Judge Duane Ford Defends Scorecards - 'This Isn't American Idol' - Bloody Elbow (http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2012/6/11/3077395/pacquiao-vs-bradley-judge-defends-scorecards-american-idol)


The controversy surrounding the Manny Pacquiao vs. Timothy Bradley decision has left people clamoring for an investigation, and for the judges to try and explain those ridiculous and seemingly indefensible scorecards. One of the two questionable judges, Duane Ford has apparently stepped up and addressed his scoring, unfortunately he fails badly in doing so.

Like the NSAC's Keith Kizer, this questionable judge also feels like he performed well:

"You've got to put the ball in the basket and Manny didn't put the ball in the basket enough. This isn't American Idol. If I judge for the people, I shouldn't be a judge. I went in with a clear mind and judged each round."

"I don't look at the punch stats but I saw Manny miss a lot of punches and Bradley hit Manny and win a lot of the exchanges. I'm comfortable with my performance. I thought Bradley gave Pacquiao a boxing lesson."

American Idol? Judging for the people? I think the guy completely missed the boat on this whole thing. Bad judging is bad judging. It has nothing to do with the popular opinion, and everything to do with making the proper call -- Something he failed to do for several of the rounds he scored, including giving Manny Pacquiao's best round to his opponent.



Scott Christ over at Bad Left Hook has more input on the topic:

Ball in the basket! American Idol! CompuBox BOO! ... STUFF!

I just don't get it. Again, I've watched the fight repeatedly. I know things can look different at ringside. But the reality is the vast majority of ringside media also had this fight for Pacquiao, most of them very comfortably. It is a massive stretch to say that Timothy Bradley won seven rounds of last night's fight, and I think an incredible leap to say that Pacquiao was "given a boxing lesson" by Timothy Bradley last night.

But hey, he's comfortable with his performance. And that's all that matters.

Wait, crap, no it isn't.

Sniggles
06-11-2012, 10:28 AM
10 years from now...

Timothy Bradley declares bankruptcy.

Timothy Bradley in prison for tax evasion.

KevoOnTheRadio
06-11-2012, 01:24 PM
Kevo, what Av I have to use for the next 2 weeks?


As far as Im concerned, that bet should be off.

Pretty much. I hadn't even thought about it since that night.

disposableassassin
06-11-2012, 02:48 PM
As far as Im concerned, that bet should be off.

I read an article that said some bookies were returning money to all bettors

Kimbo> Rampage
06-12-2012, 10:14 PM
wanted Bradley to win... but not like this.