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disposableassassin
08-01-2012, 04:45 PM
Frank Mir vs josh Barnett

Who wins and why?

disposableassassin
08-01-2012, 04:50 PM
I find this to be a very interesting fight as Barnett is used to having a significant grappling advantage over most of his opponents. He wouldn't have it here. Could frank sub josh or would the "war master's" top control stifle Mirs jits?

I personally think josh probably takes this via ud. With lots of control and smothering. Mirs got better hands so I see josh taking this one to the cage for a lot of clinch work and pressure.

Kimbo> Rampage
08-02-2012, 02:16 AM
Josh has good takedowns, but isnt an elite wrestler like Lesnar was. He would struggle to get Mir down. The standup would be close and could go either way... I dont see either subbing the other...

Id take Mir by UD. Uses his standup and outpoints Josh...

TheDoucheyWun
08-02-2012, 04:40 AM
I had this conversation with a guy at work today, And the way I explained it if this fight were to go down I don't know who I'd pick I believe that their sub skills would cross each other out I feel Josh has the better TD's and chin but I feel frank has the better strikes.

To me it would be an amazing match and I guess I would favor Barnett.

And with that said Cormier mauls Mir with a beating Lesnar & Carwin could only dream of laying on Frank.

rivethead
08-02-2012, 03:07 PM
Josh has good takedowns, but isnt an elite wrestler like Lesnar was...

...Am I reading this correctly? You're indicating lesnar is a more technical grappler than Barnett?

Or are you just saying lesnar had better takedowns?

rh

Kimbo> Rampage
08-02-2012, 03:25 PM
...Am I reading this correctly? You're indicating lesnar is a more technical grappler than Barnett?

Or are you just saying lesnar had better takedowns?

rh

Yes, Lesnar is a better wrestler than Barnett...

Josh clearly the better all around grappler... he may be versed in catch wrestling, but as far as pure wrestling and takedown ability... Lesnar was better...

rivethead
08-02-2012, 05:43 PM
Yes, Lesnar is a better wrestler than Barnett...

Josh clearly the better all around grappler... he may be versed in catch wrestling, but as far as pure wrestling and takedown ability... Lesnar was better...

I'll agree to disagree. lesnar had great takedowns due to his size/strength and speed, but Barnett has a better top game and is much more technically sound, and his submission grappling is lightyears beyond brock's.

rh

dbader08
08-08-2012, 04:29 AM
I would take Barnett by tko.

Josh has proven that he has a good chin, I don't think you can say the same for Mir. Josh also is game in the later rounds, where you don't see Frank go 3+ rounds very often. He has the better wrestling too. Grappling wise they are even, but Barnett would be the one getting the takedowns and I don't see him getting subbed from guard so...I see him stopping Mir within 3.

MIZjitsZOU
08-08-2012, 04:45 AM
I would take Barnett. I think at this point his chin is better and he would tko Mir much like what Dbader was saying.

beardown98
08-12-2012, 05:42 PM
Barnett by UD he might be able to finish Mir but i think he gets the UD.

Mir is Good but Barnett is close to if not on the Elite level of HW's