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i'll take my boi rj but it would be an awesome bout,who do yall think would win

[Luis Cruz]

Jones in his prime fought at super middleweight/light heavyweight (168-175). Mayweather is already pushing it fighting at 147 and talking 154. He'd have to eat an entire pig to make Roy's weight and then he'd get killed cause Jones would've been too strong for him with equal if not greater speed. Can't compare them fighting each other, too much of a size difference. The only thing you can realistically ask about these two is who is the better pound 4 pound fighter in their primes.

[Greenish]

I agree, size difference is to big. p4p I would take Mayweather all the way. Jones's boxing skills have never been something special, he has always relied on his extraodinary speed to get in and out before his opponents can react.

power - RJJ a bit more powerfull
chin - RJJ has average, but PFB's is A class
speed - slight edge to Jones
offence - Jones's is very good, but Mayweather's is excellent
defence - Jones's is mere average, PBF's is once again excellent

Bottomline is that p4p RJJ has nothing on PBF while Floyd has his amazing skills to fall back on. I can't see how Jones could win.

[Afro]

If you go offa talent alone.. RJJ all day!

[Punk Ass]

Originally Posted by Greenish

I agree, size difference is to big. p4p I would take Mayweather all the way. Jones's boxing skills have never been something special, he has always relied on his extraodinary speed to get in and out before his opponents can react.

power - RJJ a bit more powerfull
chin - RJJ has average, but PFB's is A class
speed - slight edge to Jones
offence - Jones's is very good, but Mayweather's is excellent
defence - Jones's is mere average, PBF's is once again excellent

Bottomline is that p4p RJJ has nothing on PBF while Floyd has his amazing skills to fall back on. I can't see how Jones could win.

Going by the fact that no one has ever come close to landing a good hit against Roy in his prime I think his defense was better because of pure speed. PBF has had close fights. Roy didn't and he fought the best (Hopkins and Toney). Roy jones knocked more people out in his prime so I say offence goes to RJJ. PPF chin is probably better.

I say RJJ was the best P4P in the last 25 years when in his prime.

I pick him over Marvin Hagler, Tommy Hearns, and Ray Lenard.

Opinions?

[Luis Cruz]

Originally Posted by harlemhustla145

Going by the fact that no one has ever come close to landing a good hit against Roy in his prime I think his defense was better because of pure speed. PBF has had close fights. Roy didn't and he fought the best (Hopkins and Toney). Roy jones knocked more people out in his prime so I say offence goes to RJJ. PPF chin is probably better.

I say RJJ was the best P4P in the last 25 years when in his prime.

I pick him over Marvin Hagler, Tommy Hearns, and Ray Lenard.

Opinions?

Better than Ray Leonard is his prime??? HELL NO! lol If i had more time i'd break it down, maybe tomorrow at work.

[Afro]

Originally Posted by harlemhustla145

Going by the fact that no one has ever come close to landing a good hit against Roy in his prime I think his defense was better because of pure speed. PBF has had close fights. Roy didn't and he fought the best (Hopkins and Toney). Roy jones knocked more people out in his prime so I say offence goes to RJJ. PPF chin is probably better.

I say RJJ was the best P4P in the last 25 years when in his prime.

I pick him over Marvin Hagler, Tommy Hearns, and Ray Lenard.

Opinions?

I followed RJJ throughout his career so im biased towards him but over SRL I dunno

[Greenish]

Originally Posted by harlemhustla145

Going by the fact that no one has ever come close to landing a good hit against Roy in his prime I think his defense was better because of pure speed. PBF has had close fights. Roy didn't and he fought the best (Hopkins and Toney). Roy jones knocked more people out in his prime so I say offence goes to RJJ. PPF chin is probably better.

I say RJJ was the best P4P in the last 25 years when in his prime.

I pick him over Marvin Hagler, Tommy Hearns, and Ray Lenard.

Opinions?

I disagree very much. Defence based on pure atleticism won't work against someone who can almost match your speed (or use long reach to nullify it, like Tarver did). RJJ has KOed a lot of people becase he spent years at LHW fighting tomato cans served to him by santioning bodies.
To say he fought the best isn't correct, he never faced Eubanks, Benn or the linear champ at LHW, Dariusz Michalczewski. Even though I would favor Jones over all of them.

Lenard is definitly better than RJJ, Hagler as well IMO while Hearns prolly isn't.

[Punk Ass]

Originally Posted by Greenish

I disagree very much. Defence based on pure atleticism won't work against someone who can almost match your speed (or use long reach to nullify it, like Tarver did). RJJ has KOed a lot of people becase he spent years at LHW fighting tomato cans served to him by santioning bodies.
To say he fought the best isn't correct, he never faced Eubanks, Benn or the linear champ at LHW, Dariusz Michalczewski. Even though I would favor Jones over all of them.

Lenard is definitly better than RJJ, Hagler as well IMO while Hearns prolly isn't.

Ray Lenard was fast, no doubt. But Ray was a WW moving up to MW, Roy was natural with much more power than SRL. Roy was definately faster than Hearns or Hagler, and could match speed with Lenard which no one else could do, the difference being Roy was bigger and stronger.

Tarver only nulified Roy because Roy was on the down slide of his career. And how can you say he never fought the best? WTF are BHop and Toney? Cans? ROy beat them both easily for the title and Roy cleaned out the LHW division before getting old over night.

[Greenish]

Since we're talking about p4p fact that RJJ is naturaly bigger than SRL doesn't matter.

Jones never cleaned out LHW, in fact he never fought man who was #1 when Jones moved up to LHW.

Jones has fough some of his times best but has also skiped (notice I don't say ducked) several. Definition of greatness is fighting and beating best of your time and IMO RJJ has done a half-assed job at that and IMO can't compare to an all time great like SRL.