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Old 06-17-2006, 09:05 PM   #11 (permalink)
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oh man, no way winky won that fight. that one judge gave him the 12th in which he did absolutely nothing and that cost taylor the sd win. i will break it down more tomorrow.
Taylor did nothing either! Winky did mroe then Taylor in RD 12, theres no way Taylor won that fight! he got outboxed.

Did you see Winky's hit % compared to Taylors? that is very accurate add in the fact that Winky actually defended himself! Taylor was hittin glove most of the night.
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Yeah, Afo Samurai PLEASE debate Cruz on why Wright won. You wanna see this boxing sub forum take off? Challenge Cruz's opinion on a decision with one of his boys (JT, Cotto, Trinidad, etc.) and watch the fireworks begin.

That being said, I scored it 116-112 for Taylor, so I had it even more one-sided than any judge or HBO expert had it.
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Old 06-17-2006, 09:13 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I just dont see how it could be a 116-112 or for anyone to say it wasnt close.. I mean come on now that fight was real close, it definently wasnt a 116-112.. it could of gone either way! I just felt Winky won it.
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Taylor did nothing either! Winky did mroe then Taylor in RD 12, theres no way Taylor won that fight! he got outboxed.

Did you see Winky's hit % compared to Taylors? that is very accurate add in the fact that Winky actually defended himself! Taylor was hittin glove most of the night.
please boone, i always give an unbias opinion when it comes to a decision in boxing. winky didn't throw in the 12th taylor did, nuff said. dont lay on %'s so much they dont say who won or lost. and do you know how those stats are added up??? a guy hitting a button when he thinks he sees something, its not always accurate believe me. i watch it live on espn when they show the numbers moving on those stats during a fight and it'll baffle your mind. but yea winky was more accurate but taylor landed a lot of power shots and body shots. you don't think he landed and hit glove, you better look at winkys face again. those shots you think were hitting glove were breaking right down the middle of winkys gloves and connecting. he did hit glove at times. the ONLY time winky did anything positive that could win him a round was when taylor stayed in the corner and toward the end of the fight taylor started winning there too. i had the same score boone had and i score every fight round by round. there was only 2 rounds i seen as debatable that harold gave both to winky and he still had a draw. i said 115-113 was ok. and although i think it was a stretch a draw can even be argued but NO WAY can you justify winky winning that fight. i could break this down round by round but i really don't think i have to. lol someone has to prove to me with facts how winky won not just %'s. lol
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Old 06-17-2006, 09:20 PM   #15 (permalink)
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please boone, i always give an unbias opinion when it comes to a decision in boxing. winky didn't throw in the 12th taylor did, nuff said. dont lay on %'s so much they dont say who won or lost. and do you know how those stats are added up??? a guy hitting a button when he thinks he sees something, its not always accurate believe me. i watch it live on espn when they show the numbers moving on those stats during a fight and it'll baffle your mind. but yea winky was more accurate but taylor landed a lot of power shots and body shots. you don't think he landed and hit glove, you better look at winkys face again. those shots you think were hitting glove were breaking right down the middle of winkys gloves and connecting. he did hit glove at times. the ONLY time winky did anything positive that could win him a round was when taylor stayed in the corner and toward the end of the fight taylor started winning there too. i had the same score boone had and i score every fight round by round. there was only 2 rounds i seen as debatable that harold gave both to winky and he still had a draw. i said 115-113 was ok. and although i think it was a stretch a draw can even be argued but NO WAY can you justify winky winning that fight. i could break this down round by round but i really don't think i have to. lol someone has to prove to me with facts how winky won not just %'s. lol
Im not sayin he didnt land any power shots.. the guy hits hard as hell.. I didnt even much pay attention to the hit stats till after the fight but I still didnt think Taylor was hitting a high % a lot of his blows were hitting glove, and the ones that werent were doing a lot of damage.. I still dont see how you can say theres NO WAY that Winky won the fight cuz it was very close, you can give Taylor the fight as far as damage and power shots, but Winky still outboxed him IMO he landed more jabs, he threw better combos, he defended himself.. he was backin Taylor up and throwin combos, and he would circle him tappin him with the jab.. where as Taylor was just throwin power shots.. anyway ima watch the fight again tomorrow, cant wait to see your breakdown.. I just dont know man I really felt it was Winky's fight.. I dont see how theres no possible way that Winky won so ima watch the fight again in the mornin

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ok hopefully you come back and reply before i get to work and break it down, you might save me some time. lol
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ok hopefully you come back and reply before i get to work and break it down, you might save me some time. lol
Lol who knows, I wake up at like lunch so ha ha

EITHER WAY im gonna go ahead and give his fight an A+ it was GREAT from beginning to end, and werent we just talkin about how this years been great for boxing? well its just got better.. ima go over to this other forum and cuss out all those chumps that said boxing was dead
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I didn't mean you're biased, I just meant passionate in debating.

I had it 116-112, but like I told Cruz aside from 2 clear-cut Taylor rounds, and 1 or 2 clear-cut Wright rounds, most of the rounds in that fight could have gone either way. So 116-112 don't mean I didn't think it was close, because I expected it to be, that's just simply how I had it round by round. I've got the detailed breakdown on the site if you want to see how, since you said you don't know how I could have it that final score. I agree it was close, and more importantly it was incredibly exciting - something I totally didn't expect.
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I didn't mean you're biased, I just meant passionate in debating.

I had it 116-112, but like I told Cruz aside from 2 clear-cut Taylor rounds, and 1 or 2 clear-cut Wright rounds, most of the rounds in that fight could have gone either way. So 116-112 don't mean I didn't think it was close, because I expected it to be, that's just simply how I had it round by round. I've got the detailed breakdown on the site if you want to see how, since you said you don't know how I could have it that final score. I agree it was close, and more importantly it was incredibly exciting - something I totally didn't expect.
ahh ok I see what your sayin then
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i'm going to watch this fight again here at work later with the dudes. i'll give my take again on it sometime, i'm having a reeeeaaaaalllll shitty day today. but winky's attitude like he got robbed is some baby shit, that i won't change my mind on.
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