Taylor vs Wright - Page 4

Afro · 06-18-2006, 02:09 PM

I think the exact opposite of you bro, cuz im stickin with Winky

Winky has a lot less to work on, hes gotta go over film and correct his mistakes

Taylor has to do the same AND improve his boxing he is still very raw.. unless the fight happens a good while from now I dont see Taylor breaking all the habits and maturing enough that it'll make a huge difference.

Matt Boone · 06-18-2006, 02:20 PM

I wouldn't even try and predict a winner in the rematch. Early on I thought Taylor might stop Winky, middle way through I thought after 1-2 solid Winky rounds it was gonna turn into technical dominance by Winky, then later in the fight I didn't know what to expect. In a rematch, I'd be the same way. Taylor does need to just avoid going into the corners, but he's not dumb he realized that in this fight, was being told not to, and kept doing it anyway so maybe it was something Winky was doing that made Taylor keep backing up like that.

Luis Cruz · 06-18-2006, 02:36 PM

No it was nothing winky was doing. Taylor said he kept going there because he wanted winky to throw so he could counter him with hard shots, like he was luring winky in. Listen to the post fight again in the ring he explains it. He also said winky had no power so obviously he wasn't bothered by anything he got hit with. That swollen eye was NOT because of jabs in the least it was one headbutt that caused it. Even though they clashed repeatdly, they showed the replay of the one headbutt that cracked taylor right in the eye and closed it the same round.

And afro if you think winky doesn't need to improve much, then please explain to me how he's going to win if taylor fights in the middle of the ring because taylor owned him when they weren't against the ropes. i'm not sure how you think winky is a way better boxer and see taylor as 'raw' when he handled him in the boxing aspect of the match in the middle of the ring. I think that right there says who the better boxer was. I really hope this rematch happens and i still stand by my words that winky IS BY NO STRETCH OF THE IMAGINATION #2 on the pound 4 pound list like Ring's rankings suggest.

Afro · 06-18-2006, 03:38 PM

Winky wasnt the one with his legs too wide, his chin exposed, and his arms at hip level.. Winky wasnt the one throwing a bunch of power shots either and getting backed up into the ropes every round, I would def. say that Jermain is a lot more raw then Winky is.

Luis Cruz · 06-18-2006, 04:10 PM

you listen to commentators too much. They commented on his wide stance but he doesn't have to many problems being off balance and winky couldn't do nothing with it. his chin exposed doesn't mean anything, obviously he had no fear of winky's power because he didn't have anything and wasn't hurting him, does that mean he can't box? i guess floyd can't either because he uses movement to avoid punches and roll with them. roy jones fought with his arms at his side in his prime also. what does throwing power shots have to do with not knowing how to box? they were very affective if you couldn't tell by winky's face and those brutal body shots he took that stopped him later in the fight from coming in aggessively. and for the last time, he WASN'T backing taylor up in the ropes, taylor went there on his own as he explained in the post fight interview and i explained in my other post. and yes taylor did back him up EVERY single power shot he landed and even the ones that were blocked. are you telling me winky outboxed taylor when it was in the middle of the ring?? if so i think you need to rewatch the entire fight from an unbiased point of view and put the volume on mute so lampley doesn't persuade you into thinking things that aren't happening.

Matt Boone · 06-18-2006, 04:29 PM

I wasn't listening to any of the post fight, as soon as the scorecards were read I was getting to work on here. I didn't tape it either.

Afro · 06-18-2006, 04:44 PM

when did I say he didnt know how to box just cuz he took powershots? I just felt that Winky's boxing was better.. yes Taylor won in the middle of the ring but I still felt Winky through better combos, landed more shots, and defended himself better I also feel the commentators were right about Taylor, not so much with his chin but his arms and legs.. yea he wasnt comin' off balance but its not like Winky was hittin him hard either.. and Roy Jones isnt exactly the best example he toyed with a lot of the guys he boxed, and Roy usually kept 1 arm up.. both of Taylors arms were down but still.. it wasnt like Taylor was defenseless either.. Winky couldnt hit him with his arms down so it worked for him but that aint gonna work against everyone.

Luis Cruz · 06-18-2006, 04:56 PM

He doesn't do it against everyone, that's what i was saying when i said he was trying to get Winky to come in. He does keep his left hand down a lot but that doesn't matter because he has a great jab that keeps people off of him even though he didn't use it in this fight. The point is i've watched Taylor come up the ranks, i've seen a lot of his fights and i've seen Winky. I can say with certainty that was Winky at 100%, he fought better than i ever seen him fight and that was Taylor at about 75-80% and Winky still couldn't beat him just like Manny said in a roundabout way. That's why i'm saying in a rematch Taylor will win a lopsided decision because he didn't even bring his A game this time and Winky did, there's nothing Winky can do to make a better fight against Taylor than what he did in this fight where on the flipside Taylor comes in with his head right and uses that great jab (where if you noticed when he used it he outjabbed Winky everytime) to set up punches and is the aggressor, Winky won't be able to do anything to stop him, mark my words.