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07-30-2010, 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by GangGreenWarrior To save boxing you need the one thing that there is 0 hope of in boxing; a promoter/org that is willing to spend money to develop young talent without any hope of a return on investment for several years or more. Boxing needs a Bonnar/Griffin type moment and it needs to be free on TV for people to watch. Watching two up and comers fight is a hell of a lot more interesting when you actually know something about the two fighters. There are no young boxers that I am aware of that have people talking. There is just the same few names that get tossed around and repeated.
Also, boxing cards need quality undercards. When I used to watch the big name PPVs for boxing, it was always a social event/hang around/do other things until the main event came on. No one really got hyped other than the top fight and rarely was the relevance of any undercard match known.
Lastly, less time with the announcers talking! I'm tired of seeing that old dinosaur talking about boxing. Show some fights, show some KOs, show something! Especially with a large group of people watching, no one can hear him. Show prelim fights or something. Show the next guy fighting winning his last few fights. Something visual for those at the bar watching. |
These ideas would be an excellent start, especially the better undercards. I have zero problems shelling out fifty bucks for a UFC PPV because I know that I will most likely be getting to see some quality fights aside from the main event...not always, but most of the time. But with boxing, I just don't feel that way anymore.
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07-30-2010, 10:03 AM
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Boxing needs one guy to be the champ per division, not 5.
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07-30-2010, 10:38 AM
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I like what they did with the Super Six and i have really enjoyed it but like everyone has said boxing needs a Heavyweight champion like Tyson again to ignite the passion back in boxing. And as far as smaller gloves go it would only add more injuries and actually make the fights more boring because no one would throw punches.
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07-30-2010, 11:33 AM
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I agree with too many organizations and too many belts being handed out. Cut that shit down to one or two belts. Getting rid of an agent like Don King would help too, lol. But smaller gloves.. maybe, I dont think that would make or break boxing but it would make things go a little quicker in the matches. Boxing needs a new superstar. Mayweather is somewhat boring he doesn't really KO ppl and thats what fans want. Pacquio is exciting but he would need to beat Floyd. I DO think boxing relies on the Heavyweight star. Klitchko brothers aren't just doing it anymore for boxing. We do need that fighter that has that killer instinct and who's gonna KO ppl within the first few rounds. But all of this said.. MMA will still be on top even if any of this happens.
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07-30-2010, 11:39 AM
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Personally I think it all comes down to money, well at least it's certainly something that needs to be addressed. When a promoter is shelling out $50 mil for the two mainevent guys the undercard is obviously going to suffer.
Yes, new stars need to be made, but they are made with exposure to fans. The younger talent isn't getting that exposure because no one is buying the PPV's to watch the undercard. Lower the fighters pay a bit, use those saved funds to heavily promote a FREE card, sell advertising, and gain exposure.
It's far from perfect, but it's a step in the right direction.
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07-30-2010, 01:31 PM
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Boxing does need a Tyson, but I think the next Tyson will choose MMA...
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07-30-2010, 02:07 PM
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I do not understand why everyone thinks potentially great boxers would turn down boxing to fight MMA. Think about it, even a decently good boxer can make more in one fight then most MMA fighters make in a year. Palvik who is not a superstar by any means made about 1 million in his last fight. If he fights 3 times this year that will be 3 million dollars, which is something pretty much no MMA fighter makes besides maybe Brock Lesnar or GSP.
So lets recap, decently good boxer makes much more then even the best MMA fighters. Why on earth would you do that to yourself?
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07-30-2010, 02:17 PM
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Fix the clinching problem and the in ring product just got 10x better. The only other thing it needs is 1 belt per division.
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07-30-2010, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by built1052 Boxing does need a Tyson, but I think the next Tyson will choose MMA... | Yep, would a boxer like to make upwards of $15-20 million ala Holyfield, Tyson, and Lewis in their glory days or make $500,000 ala Lesnar, Liddell, and Couture?  How about $40 million like Mayweather?
Sorry but MMA just isn't there yet. Only the UFC is there and it still has A LOT of growing to do. 97% of MMA fighters are not making that much money. Unless you are a mainstay and superstar in the UFC or your name is Fedor, you aren't really living in luxury. What concerns me is that the UFC is the only brand that's stood the test of time while every other brand died. And only a few guys in the UFC stand to make a couple million. Not the tens of millions which boxers like DLH and Pacman were/are making.
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07-30-2010, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Tyreas Fix the clinching problem and the in ring product just got 10x better. The only other thing it needs is 1 belt per division. | Yes, fix the clinching problem in boxing and the lay and pray in MMA and we're golden! |
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