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[Punk Ass]

Originally Posted by Luis Cruz

Athletes always blame doctors, don't buy that for one second.

I remember the first fight, Roy clowned him bad and that's when they were both prime Middleweights.

The good ole dayz, nobody today could be either one of them at that time. Not even Hopkins, even though that was a bold statement.

[TheBonger]

Originally Posted by harlemhustla145

Just like the other dude said Toney has always been a trash talker, thats what he does. He doesn't respect anybody because he thinks he's the greatest and you know what, he is one of the P4P best in boxing today. the only problem is these guys are to big for him to hurt.
You said Toney doesn't draw a crowd? You must be crazy. Toney is a legend he has cleaned out divisions came up from middleweight and competes in the heavyweight division, he is the only fighter to ever do that. He obviouly has better skills than any heavyweight out there and if those punches he landed could move these dudes, everybody he fought would of been KOed

I didnt say toney didnt have a draw but i mean that his mouth and antics are most of his draw at this point. Toney back in the day was good figher but at this point the only reason he is a contender at HW it because the division is as weak as it has prolly ever been. And i still dont see him winning the HW title, like you said he doesnt really have heavyweight power which puts him at a big disadvantage. I just think he likes the attention of making himself a spectacle, his is dispectful to other fighters and to the sport itself. Im for one am tired of the bullshit. Maybe Holyfield makes a combact and wins a couple belts what a story that would be. Dont see it happening but the HW division needs something quick. Im not sure but i think i read somewhere that the Rahman/Maskaev title fight only had 70,000 buys. Not cutting it for a HW title fight.

[Afro]

Toney can and will hold one of the HW belts, bank on that he is still a good boxer.. I wouldnt give him the edge over Kltischo cuz its hard to outbox Wlad when ur at a reach advantage, but the others.. ill take Toney over them any day.

[Punk Ass]

Originally Posted by Afro Samurai

Toney can and will hold one of the HW belts, bank on that he is still a good boxer.. I wouldnt give him the edge over Kltischo cuz its hard to outbox Wlad when ur at a reach advantage, but the others.. ill take Toney over them any day.

Agreed, as long as he does it quick, he aint getting no younger.

[Salvy_Mic]

Age always hurts the more dynamic and/or brawling fighters more than it does other kinds of fighters. Roy Jones was a flashy, lightning fast fighter, and unfortunately for him, one of the first things to go was his mobility. Compare that to someone like Bernard Hopkins, more of a thinking man's fighter who seemingly only got better with age because his style wasn't heavily affected by age. It also has to do with your conditioning, and considering Hopkins' monastic lifestyle and training, he was always going to be near peak condition even if he got older.

[Punk Ass]

Originally Posted by Salvy_Mic

Age always hurts the more dynamic and/or brawling fighters more than it does other kinds of fighters. Roy Jones was a flashy, lightning fast fighter, and unfortunately for him, one of the first things to go was his mobility. Compare that to someone like Bernard Hopkins, more of a thinking man's fighter who seemingly only got better with age because his style wasn't heavily affected by age. It also has to do with your conditioning, and considering Hopkins' monastic lifestyle and training, he was always going to be near peak condition even if he got older.

Well said

[WandAXE]

I hope Peter wins I thought he would be good for the HW division in boxing, but he got beat a while back . So hopefully it becomes a good fight and better than that bullshit fight between Rock vs Toney, that was a joke.