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06-06-2007, 11:47 AM
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| Josh Koscheck Myspace POST MUST READ! UFC vs BOXING
UFC and boxing ppv dollars?
UFC Prez Dana White is always quick to pull out the "boxing promoters are crooked" line during his frequent discussions about boxing. I would argue that the UFC Czar is just as crooked.
Why did Chuck Liddell and Rampage Jackson only make about $500,000 for their recent UFC 72 showdown. UFC 72 did about 1 million pay per view buys at $40 a pop, Zuffa made 40 million alone in ppv dollars. Not to mention the live gate, over seas viewing rights, and sponsors that ponied up money for this fight. Why do UFC fighters get such a small piece of the pie in a sport that's supposedly on the upswing? With the rise in of popularity of the UFC why aren't their fighters paid MUCH more.
I'm not saying there aren't boxing promoters that don't short change their fighters, but boxers can make alot more money over a career than a UFC fighter can. Shannon Briggs was paid 1.8 million for his meaningless title defense against Sultan Ibragimov last weekend. GO ahead UFC fans, defend your boy Dana White.
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Nice try, as demand for the sport builds up so should the fighters salaries. I'm not buying that one. Zuffa is keeping as much as they can of the 100 million they made for UFC 72. They should be ashamed paying two of their top fighters $500,000.
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White and the UFC basically want to pay the fighters like a third rate sport but at the same time want to claim to be a legitimate sport. The average UFC fighter doesn't even make a middle class living it is ridiculous. Even the elite MMA fighters are way behind other professional sports.
White wants to say that Mayweather wouldn't make it in the UFC and he is right Mayweather wouldn't step in the UFC ring for the peanuts they pay. Why would he take about 1/20th of his normal pay?
UFC fans are in serious denial about this issues. They will say things like well athletes shouldn't make that kind of money. Well somebody is making it so why should it all go to the promoters? Or they will say that it takes time but again the revenues MMA is generating is huge so it is a matter of changing the structure not time.
UFC fighters need some kind of union to make a larger share of the pie since it is the fighter that literally rolls the dice with his future health and even his life not the promoters.
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06-06-2007, 11:49 AM
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I been saying this from the Start. I dont care what Dana or Zuffa says. With the buying of Pride this only makes it worst. Wow i wonder how Ufc is gonna feel when they Read this.
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06-06-2007, 11:51 AM
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didn't they fight at UFC 71? Is Koscheck drunk or stupid?
And yes, I think the fighters should be paid more... but not necessarily Liddell or Jackson.. Give me a fucking break.. The money should be going to the lower tier fighters... this will give them more money to train and develop as a fighter... Instead of working a part time job and training... they can simply train.. Liddell was estimated to make.. what was it? $9,000,000 this year if he didn't lose? Yeah.. Liddell needs more money my ass.
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06-06-2007, 11:52 AM
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That was actually a really good read and very true. I love UFC and they are making huge progress but with that progress needs an increase in fighter pay. In the UFC's defense, though, I think they give out all sorts of bonuses. I'm not sure how much or for what but the fighters probably make a bit more. Still though, it will be a sweet day when your average UFC undercard fighter can pull in 100,000$
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06-06-2007, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Ramma didn't they fight at UFC 71? Is Koscheck drunk or stupid? | Haha I was thinking that too....but I agree with what he's saying. MMA fighters should be among the highest paid athletes in the world considering what they do, and the risks they take even stepping into that cage.
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06-06-2007, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Nate_Deezy Haha I was thinking that too....but I agree with what he's saying. MMA fighters should be among the highest paid athletes in the world considering what they do, and the risks they take even stepping into that cage. | Technically, we don't know severe the risks are right now, but I agree.
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06-06-2007, 11:58 AM
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I'm confused. Is that your opinion or something that Koscheck wrote somewhere? If you are quoting someone else... put it in quotes. And provide a link to the source material.
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06-06-2007, 12:01 PM
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First of all, myspace is about as secure as Jenna Jameson's panties -- so don't assume just because you read it there that one of Koschecks people posted it.
Secondly, Kos has made no secret that he's in it for the money --which is fine, but if he did write this, he clearly needs some lessons in corporate diplomacy.
If you wanna hit a home run, you gotta play the game -- in any industry.
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06-06-2007, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by baba First of all, myspace is about as secure as Jenna Jameson's panties -- so don't assume just because you read it there that one of Koschecks people posted it.
Secondly, Kos has made no secret that he's in it for the money --which is fine, but if he did write this, he clearly needs some lessons in corporate diplomacy.
If you wanna hit a home run, you gotta play the game -- in any industry. | His Myspace could have been hacked.. but would his people say such bold things with the idea that it was him speaking? Unlikely. As far as I know, Koscheck handles his Myspace and a lot of his main website stuff.
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06-06-2007, 12:03 PM
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Not saying I disagree, but this guy is a loudmouth who's gonna get himself into trouble, Dana vs Kos there's one I'd watch
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