61 wasn't just another show either, it was the last big fight the Heavyweight division has to offer in the near future mixed with the best money-grudge match in company history (aside from Ortiz-Liddell II if that ever happens). So I see your point, and I agree like I said WFA had the better fights but as far as success, it's measured on more than just exciting fights - so UFC 61 was the bigger success. But again part of success/failure means how did this event effect the company going forward. In both cases, failure. I doubt people who bought UFC 61 as their first ever time watching a UFC event....I doubt many of those people re-buy. WFA the same thing.