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[NinjaShogunRua]

My point is scheduling conflicts and such. Randy couldn't of fought in the MWGP because of a pending fight with Tito Ortiz for the UFC LHW Title. It takes alot to set up a huge match like Wand vs Chuck or Wand vs Randy. It's not like these guys are setting the fights up themselves. I am sure Wand would of had no problem fighting Randy.

I didn't get the point of "why didn't he fight when Randy called him out then" as if implying that Wand would be scared to fight Randy? Wand entered the OWGP, he isn't scared of any fighter.

[supermark21]

no i just never knew why they didnt fight cause when randy beat vitor wand seemed ready to go in there right away. isnt that the same type of scenario rite now with chuckand wand?

[NinjaShogunRua]

Originally Posted by supermark21

no i just never knew why they didnt fight cause when randy beat vitor wand seemed ready to go in there right away. isnt that the same type of scenario rite now with chuckand wand?

I think the Chuck/Wand thing has a little bit more to due with Pride needing to get over with the USA fans and build more of a solid fanbase in the US now, since they lost their contract with Fuji TV. Before Pride didn't really need the US money, but now they do more than ever.

[killerinstinct]

Originally Posted by supermark21

no i just never knew why they didnt fight cause when randy beat vitor wand seemed ready to go in there right away. isnt that the same type of scenario rite now with chuckand wand?

It's different b/c the Chuck/Wand fight is confirmed if Chuck Beats Babalu or should I say when Chuck beats Babalu.The Wand/Couture fight was just in negoatiations.

[dagreat1]

Originally Posted by NinjaShogunRua

probably the same reason that the UFC sent Chuck Liddell to the 2003 Pride MW GP and not Randy.

Exactly... Randy would've been owned. Horn would be a B level fighter in Pride. He would be owned by Wandy, Shogun, Arona, Nakamura, Overeem, Little Nog, etc...

Killer:
Babalu is not garbage by any means, I know this as he has beaten Shougun, gone the distance with Fedor, Hendo and Randleman as I stated in the "Sobral's chances against Chuck" thread.

The extent of Chuck's wrestling is staying on his feet, that is fine but if Wandy wanted to take the fight to the ground he could. He obviously wants to shut Chuck up and KO him (as I want him to as well).

Randy vs Chuck II was an eye gouge victory, yes Horn sucks, Randy vs Chuck III Randy sucked (obviously not into it as he was goign to retire no matter the outcome and that was on his mind mor than the actual fight).

You shall see my friend, the hype surrounding Chuck is called Dana White politics, you will return to earth after the Wandy vs Chuck fight (should it take place).

[killerinstinct]

Originally Posted by dagreat1

Exactly... Randy would've been owned. Horn would be a B level fighter in Pride. He would be owned by Wandy, Shogun, Arona, Nakamura, Overeem, Little Nog, etc...

Killer:
Babalu is not garbage by any means, I know this as he has beaten Shougun, gone the distance with Fedor, Hendo and Randleman as I stated in the "Sobral's chances against Chuck" thread.

The extent of Chuck's wrestling is staying on his feet, that is fine but if Wandy wanted to take the fight to the ground he could. He obviously wants to shut Chuck up and KO him (as I want him to as well).

Randy vs Chuck II was an eye gouge victory, yes Horn sucks, Randy vs Chuck III Randy sucked (obviously not into it as he was goign to retire no matter the outcome and that was on his mind mor than the actual fight).

You shall see my friend, the hype surrounding Chuck is called Dana White politics, you will return to earth after the Wandy vs Chuck fight (should it take place).

Randy would in no way shape or form been owned.Do you honestly think that Wand would've been able to avoid Randy's take downs?

I doubt Wand could take the fight to the ground Chuck is a much better wrestler imo.

Randy/Chuck 2 was an eye gouge victory ,but a victory none the less.Horn doesn't suck and Randy was good in Randy/Chuck 3 he was winning the fight untill he slipped.

After Chuck knocks Wand out cold you'll see that Chuck right now in the best LHW in the world.

[kickass32]

Amen........

Chuck is closing the gap!

[supermark21]

im pulling for chuck. it just seems that everyone on this site hates on him except a small few. i like wand but i dont understand how most people out here cant be fans of both. GO CHUCK

[Dsm634]

Originally Posted by supermark21

im pulling for chuck. it just seems that everyone on this site hates on him except a small few. i like wand but i dont understand how most people out here cant be fans of both. GO CHUCK

Agreed. Go Chuck. It would be sweet to see the iceman knock out pride's best lhw.

[DPrescott878]

I beleive this fight will be very close, but I beleive in the Octagon Chuck has to be a slight favorite. As everyone knows, no soccer kicks and head stomps, which is how Wandy finishes a lot of his opponents one they go down. Wandy might drop Chuck, but there is no way he is going to be able to keep him down, Chuck has a helluva chin and is great at getting back to his feet . Also Chuck is about 3 inches taller than Wandy and doesn't shoot in for takedowns, so that will take Wands killer knees out of the picture. I think Chuck is going to circle and use angles (see Couture II and III) and eventually catch Wandy flush and stun him, and will finish it with a flurry which will lead to a ref stoppage. Just my 2 cents. I guess we will see in November (hopefully).