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[dagreat1]

Originally Posted by AJL416AZ

really? there's no way that Chute Boxe doesn't roid, but people don't ride them like Hammer House.
yeah, Coleman might, but you think Silva is the way he his without good ol' roid rage? i know he always seems intense like that, but his somewhat fluctuating strength and size levels scream CYCLE, as well as starting multiple in-ring fights, whether or not he or they are involved. he seems to be a huge poster boy for steroids, to be honest, i think if you give Coleman shit, you should get everyone who ever has symptoms of steroid use.

people say Baroni is big time juicer, yet he was actually bigger in the UFC, with testing and all.

I totally agree with you.

[Alvin]

Hang on.

Is there any proof that Coleman takes steroids?

Just cos the guy is muscular doesn't mean he takes dope. Does Monson? Does Sherk?

If he does come back to the UFC he'll know that there will be drug tests etc, but I'm not aware that he has ever been tested positive for taking them. All I've heard is from forum guys assuming he does cos of his size.

Anyways if Coleman is back with the UFC you can see what Dana is thinking can't you. Mark Coleman Vs Wanderlie Silva - It's On!!!!

[bassm]

I am a Coleman fan due to the fact he is a home town guy and we are alum from the same school so im a bit biased but..... performance inhancing drugs hgh test ect are a huge part of mma and boxing for that matter unfortunatly. The exotic drugs out there that are constantly being changed chemically and the prevalence of HGH actually makes the testing that organizations use null and void to a certain extent unless the user is a dumb fuck and uses somthing easily detected IE Kimo. In fact there are drugs out there that physical changes are not that obviouse so no one here unless there is a positive drug test knows who uses and who doesnt. When Kevin and Coleman were competing as amatures and being tested by olympic commities they never had a positive test and they were the freaks you see now. Im not saying that they use one way or the other Im just saying the sport is not the purest sport in the world like cycling and base ball....lol

[Clint]

Originally Posted by Mastiff_owner

I will not assume that 95% of fighters are on roids. Every fighter gets tested before and sometimes after a fight. The difference between mma and all the other sports is it's a crap shoot as to whether or not you will get tested. The other sports do random testing, its a gamble as to whether or not they will get caught. The player unions will not allow 100% testing. Boxing and mma are about the only sports that test EVERY competitor. So I think you are wrong unless you are talking about Pride because they do not test at all.

I will give you that Coleman did a lot for mma and i do respect him for that but i lost most all respect for him because he is a CHEATER. Combat sports are one of the oldest and noblest of all sports and there is no room for a cheater in the combat arts. It is disrespectful to everyone, fans, other fighter, pioneers of mma and founders of the arts that are on display(judo, jiu-jitsu,sambo etc)

It is sad that anyone would try to justify cheating because "other people do it" Give me a break and find another hero.

Actually man, very few competitors get tested in MMA. The NSAC/CSAC tests all title fight and then just random fighters and Pride does no testing.

However, until someone has proof that a fighter is on steroids, all the claims of the person juicing are nothing more than rumors at best. Hell they randomly tested Monson at his last fight and he passed with flying colors.

[supermark21]

Originally Posted by bassm

I am a Coleman fan due to the fact he is a home town guy and we are alum from the same school so im a bit biased but..... performance inhancing drugs hgh test ect are a huge part of mma and boxing for that matter unfortunatly. The exotic drugs out there that are constantly being changed chemically and the prevalence of HGH actually makes the testing that organizations use null and void to a certain extent unless the user is a dumb fuck and uses somthing easily detected IE Kimo. In fact there are drugs out there that physical changes are not that obviouse so no one here unless there is a positive drug test knows who uses and who doesnt. When Kevin and Coleman were competing as amatures and being tested by olympic commities they never had a positive test and they were the freaks you see now. Im not saying that they use one way or the other Im just saying the sport is not the purest sport in the world like cycling and base ball....lol

actually i would say that sherk and monson both juice with gh and insulin. they are both very ripped and yet they have those budda bellys. thats usually a result of abusing insulin and gh which causes extreme muscle builed up but at the same time it causes internal organ growth

[supermark21]

Originally Posted by AJL416AZ

really? there's no way that Chute Boxe doesn't roid, but people don't ride them like Hammer House.
yeah, Coleman might, but you think Silva is the way he his without good ol' roid rage? i know he always seems intense like that, but his somewhat fluctuating strength and size levels scream CYCLE, as well as starting multiple in-ring fights, whether or not he or they are involved. he seems to be a huge poster boy for steroids, to be honest, i think if you give Coleman shit, you should get everyone who ever has symptoms of steroid use.

people say Baroni is big time juicer, yet he was actually bigger in the UFC, with testing and all.

it is possible that wandys team roids but you cant say its just because he looks larger sometimes than others. i dont know if youve ever known someone personally who cycles but they really dont lose much of that size as long as they keep the calories high and work out. all you really lose is that pop in the muscles from water loss

as for wandy i dont know if he does or not. but the changing sizes could be because he got sick or had to cut weight or just lifted weights when other times he didnt. or maybe he tried a new lifting method that worked better for his body. roids shouldnt abe the first answer

[steelebone]

STOP making steroid allegations! You guys dont know shit and have nothing to do but sit at home and make shit up. I know Sherk personally and I know for a fact the guy has never juiced! He busts his ass in the gym, plain and simple. Do any of you even know how to tell if a guys juicin? It's not real hard.

[supermark21]

Originally Posted by steelebone

STOP making steroid allegations! You guys dont know shit and have nothing to do but sit at home and make shit up. I know Sherk personally and I know for a fact the guy has never juiced! He busts his ass in the gym, plain and simple. Do any of you even know how to tell if a guys juicin? It's not real hard.

and you have nothing to do but sit at home and read it. we pointed out a couple ways to tell if someones juicing and if i think sherk is ill say it. maybe everyday

[dagreat1]

Originally Posted by steelebone

STOP making steroid allegations! You guys dont know shit and have nothing to do but sit at home and make shit up. I know Sherk personally and I know for a fact the guy has never juiced! He busts his ass in the gym, plain and simple. Do any of you even know how to tell if a guys juicin? It's not real hard.

Yeah your homeboy is on the juice, no fuggin doubt about it.

[yumitree]

Originally Posted by supermark21

actually i would say that sherk and monson both juice with gh and insulin. they are both very ripped and yet they have those budda bellys. thats usually a result of abusing insulin and gh which causes extreme muscle builed up but at the same time it causes internal organ growth

monson was tested by the nsac at ufc 61 and passed.