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08-03-2006, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by J zingher As far as I can recall, he didn't seem to gas at the end of matchs, as is the custom of many of the "muscle head" HWTS.
One thing i question is if he will be able to get down to 265, in the WWE he looked much bigger than 265. Plus, didn't he have some kind of shoulder injury in the WWE that forced him to quit? | He's supposed to be around 280 (according to Miletich) so cutting 15lbs isn't bad.
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08-03-2006, 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by J zingher He was a very good, not great, college wrestler. He won most of his matches due to overwhelming physical ability, not due to great wrestling techniques.
I watched him wrestle in person numerous times, including when he got beat by Stephen Neal(who now is the right guard for the Patriots) and University of Iowa's Wes Hand, who he outweighed by a good 30-35 pounds.
He has got a very explosive double-leg takedown, which he used extensivly in college. Could translate well to MMA
As far as I can recall, he didn't seem to gas at the end of matchs, as is the custom of many of the "muscle head" HWTS.
One thing i question is if he will be able to get down to 265, in the WWE he looked much bigger than 265. Plus, didn't he have some kind of shoulder injury in the WWE that forced him to quit? | kinda makes him sound like a mark kerr part 2
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08-03-2006, 08:56 AM
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I think he will go to King of the Cage or pride. He weighs about 290 so it would be alot to cut for UFC and if he trains with Militich then what's the point of going to UFC since none of those guys ever want to fight each other.
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08-03-2006, 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by LILMAC I think he will go to King of the Cage or pride. He weighs about 290 so it would be alot to cut for UFC and if he trains with Militich then what's the point of going to UFC since none of those guys ever want to fight each other. | I think he'd have a pretty short career if he started out in PRIDE. I hope he's smart enough to try to walk before he runs... start out small, work some KOTC shows or something. Even doing UFC first would be better than jumping straight to PRIDE.
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08-03-2006, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Clint I figure Miletich has a win-win situation with Lesnar. Lesnar can learn subs and striking and they have a big fast wrestler to drill takedowns with Sylvia. |
Plus the fact that they can move out the old champ (Silva) and bring in the new one (if Silva still has the title but I would expect Vera to have it by then). Lesner vs Vera might be the fight that makes Vera drop down to 205, that would be a very difficult match for Vera to win. I really don't see anyone in the UFC overcoming his size and strength. He may be able to toss Fedor off of him when Fedor Mounts him.
Still, Fedor would beat him IMO but that could be a very difficult matchup as Lesner is so fuggin strong.
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08-03-2006, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by jwistead I think he'd have a pretty short career if he started out in PRIDE. I hope he's smart enough to try to walk before he runs... start out small, work some KOTC shows or something. Even doing UFC first would be better than jumping straight to PRIDE. |
I disagree, he would do great in Pride, he's not going to be Bob Sapp, he is actually an olympic wrestler, extremely powerfull and fast so all he needs to learn is a little standup and a sub game and he will be in the top 5 at HW within a year.
He will be able to muscle out submissions, that is a huge advantage, given his wrestling background, he will be able to defend the takedown and obviously be able to take fighters to the ground and keep them there.
He will need to be smart and tap when he is being arm barred or he will certainly have short career. I don't think Pride would throw him in with the top ranked HW right away. They would look at him as part of the future of Pride, a man of his size is always a crowd favorite in Japan so the fans would cheer for him and want him to win his fights.
I could see a James Thomson vs Lesner opening debut for Brock, that would be a quick and exciting fight.
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08-03-2006, 11:34 AM
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Im not a big fan of Lesnar, but I do wish him success in MMA, I see him more like a ground and pound fighter for the first couple of years, and could develope into an amazing fighter if he can develope his submission skills, if he does that, I'm almost certain that he could reach Fedor's level. He can wrestle for real, he can punch, and he can take a good knock on the head (Shooting star botched spot on WM Vs Angle!), and he's still young. He might turn into the top guy for a long while.
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08-03-2006, 12:25 PM
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I've been saying this for a while, but it Lesnar properly cross-trains and prepares the sky is the limit. As of right now it looks like he is. The guy is a freak of nature and is insanely strong. He would probably be hands down the strongest HWT around. He has great cardio and a strong wrestling background. He would fit right in, in the UFC due to the fact it is a pretty weak HWT divison and his strenght alone would be good enough for him to get through a few fights. I can see his career being kind of like Matt Hughes, just a strong wrestler early on and then finaly develpoing into an all around MMA fighter.
BTW, if Vera thought Aurresiro Silva was strong he wouldnt know what to do when a guy like Lesnar bear hugs him against the Cage.
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08-03-2006, 12:37 PM
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being a big fan of wwe at the time Brock was there i am definitley psyced to see him in MMA. i really think with proper training he will be a major player in MMA. i would love to see him take on a few fights with lower level fighters at first. he would need to get used to being in a real fight and he would need to get the butterflies out before he stepped it up in competition. we will see, however i am very excited to see where this goes.
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08-03-2006, 01:08 PM
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Miletich has already said in a year or two Brock will be unbeatable. All the rumors I've read though seem to have him going to K1 though instead of UFC or Pride. And all, don't think that he wouldn't be able to make weight for UFC. Remember, Dana has already offered Lesnar a contract.
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