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08-09-2006, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Alvin You see this is why the anti-Tito brigade bore me to tears at times.
Tito was not spoon fed fights.
He beat Wandelie Silva for the titile. He then beat Yuki Kondo & Evan Tanner. He was to face Jeremy Horn, but Horn lost to Elvis Sinosic in a final eliminator, so he beat Sinosic. Then he beat Matyushenko who was/is an awesome wrestler with wins over Minotauro, Tiger White & Pedro Rizzo.
He then goes in against Shamrock for the most eagley awaited fight in MMA history at the time & whoops him.
Then Chuck Liddle starts spouting his mouth & everyone says he's avoiding him. Liddle takes on Couture & loses, therefore Couture gets the title fight. Tito takes on Couture & loses the belt, then takes on Liddle & get's his ass kicked.
I'm telling you now if Tito fights Babalu, Liddle, Silva, Crocop, Fedor & King fucking Kong they'll still be people saying he got fed cans or they were past their prime.
Anyway on to the point of the thread, in my opinion Tito is fighting Ken again because of the people on forums etc complaining that the second fight was stopped too soon. He pretty much said so when the crowd booed him after the fight. | Tito fought Wand when he was a one deminional nobody.Why did Wand get a title shot when his last fight in the UFC he was absolutely domianted?  Yuki Kondo is much smaller than Tito and Yuki has never defeated anyone worth a damn except maybe Frank Shamrock,Evan Tanner is much smaller than Tito and Tito never gave Evan a rematch.I don't care what Elvis did he was in no way shape or form deserving of a title shot.Matyushenko is one deminional.Tito was spoone fed fights when he was champ his manager was Dana White he got title defenses against guys like Elvis Sinocic and Ken Shamrock when there were guys like Randleman,Chuck,Vitor,and Horn that he could've been fighting.
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08-09-2006, 11:34 AM
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Most of you guys say Tito sucks or is an average fighter because you don't like him.
He's a great fighter and sooner or later is gonna be champion again. I'm not the biggest Tito fan in the world...not really a fan at all, but at least respect the guy for what he's done instead of crapping on him every chance you get, geez.
He's fighting Shamrock on SPIKE TV for the fans because the 2nd wasn't what the fans wanted, give him his due.
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08-09-2006, 01:07 PM
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Tito is a GREAT fighter? says what?
and why should someone respect Tito? he doesnt respect anyone else, only time I really seen Tito show some sportsman ship is when Chuck beat him.
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08-09-2006, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Afro Samurai Tito is a GREAT fighter? says what?
and why should someone respect Tito? he doesnt respect anyone else, only time I really seen Tito show some sportsman ship is when Chuck beat him. | yea and that only lasted until chuck wasnt around to beat on him again. i never heard him say anything bad about randy tho
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08-09-2006, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by killerinstinct Tito fought Wand when he was a one deminional nobody.Why did Wand get a title shot when his last fight in the UFC he was absolutely domianted? Yuki Kondo is much smaller than Tito and Yuki has never defeated anyone worth a damn except maybe Frank Shamrock,Evan Tanner is much smaller than Tito and Tito never gave Evan a rematch.I don't care what Elvis did he was in no way shape or form deserving of a title shot.Matyushenko is one deminional.Tito was spoone fed fights when he was champ his manager was Dana White he got title defenses against guys like Elvis Sinocic and Ken Shamrock when there were guys like Randleman,Chuck,Vitor,and Horn that he could've been fighting. | No way! You disagree with me?!?!?
As I said it is actual fact (not hearsay) Elvis Sinosic beat Jeremy Horn in what was a final elimination, what did you expect the loser to get the title shot?!?!?!?
Sinosic was in everyway shape or form deserving the title shot, cos he won a final eliminator (even if it was a shock result). End of story.
Tanner was much smaller than Tito? Nope, not giving you that one either.
Matyushenko, may be one dimensial but he still beat Lil Nog in his next fight after Tito beat him. He's by no stretch of the imagination an easy fight for anyone.
You go on about Tito being managed by Dana White, well so was Chuck Liddle. No-one goes on about Militech running from Hughes when he was WW champ.
Bottom line is some of you guys will never like Tito Ortiz, but don't give shite reasons like he dodged everyone, just cos Liddle says he did during his injury hit final few years as champ.
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08-09-2006, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by supermark21 yea and that only lasted until chuck wasnt around to beat on him again. i never heard him say anything bad about randy tho | he never said anything bad about Randy because of how much he respects Randy. Randy never talked sh*t about Tito, only mentioned how he thought Tito ducked Chuck and that he disagreed with it. I love how so many people on here hate Tito and always talk about how disrespectful he is and everything. you people need to realize that a lot of you watch MMA because of Tito. He was the face of the UFC for years and still is in the eyes of many fans. put your hatred aside for a minute and look at what he has done for the sport...doubt the ignorance will ever end though...
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08-09-2006, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Alvin You see this is why the anti-Tito brigade bore me to tears at times.
Tito was not spoon fed fights.
He beat Wandelie Silva for the titile. He then beat Yuki Kondo & Evan Tanner. He was to face Jeremy Horn, but Horn lost to Elvis Sinosic in a final eliminator, so he beat Sinosic. Then he beat Matyushenko who was/is an awesome wrestler with wins over Minotauro, Tiger White & Pedro Rizzo.
He then goes in against Shamrock for the most eagley awaited fight in MMA history at the time & whoops him.
Then Chuck Liddle starts spouting his mouth & everyone says he's avoiding him. Liddle takes on Couture & loses, therefore Couture gets the title fight. Tito takes on Couture & loses the belt, then takes on Liddle & get's his ass kicked.
I'm telling you now if Tito fights Babalu, Liddle, Silva, Crocop, Fedor & King fucking Kong they'll still be people saying he got fed cans or they were past their prime.
Anyway on to the point of the thread, in my opinion Tito is fighting Ken again because of the people on forums etc complaining that the second fight was stopped too soon. He pretty much said so when the crowd booed him after the fight. | well put!
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08-09-2006, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by ArMnHC he never said anything bad about Randy because of how much he respects Randy. Randy never talked sh*t about Tito, only mentioned how he thought Tito ducked Chuck and that he disagreed with it. I love how so many people on here hate Tito and always talk about how disrespectful he is and everything. you people need to realize that a lot of you watch MMA because of Tito. He was the face of the UFC for years and still is in the eyes of many fans. put your hatred aside for a minute and look at what he has done for the sport...doubt the ignorance will ever end though... | Tito has never done anything for the sport.When the UFC was banned in the states b/c it was a "bloodsport"and they were having UFCs in Japan and Brazil do you really think Tito gave the UFC a good image when it was trying it's hardest to gain the respect it deserves?Tito only cares about himself and is always looking out for number one.Tito did talk crap on Randy Couture he said there's no way he's going to lose to some old man and blah blah.Tito can't really say much now ,b/c Randy litterally spanked him.
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08-09-2006, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by killerinstinct Tito has never done anything for the sport.When the UFC was banned in the states b/c it was a "bloodsport"and they were having UFCs in Japan and Brazil do you really think Tito gave the UFC a good image when it was trying it's hardest to gain the respect it deserves?Tito only cares about himself and is always looking out for number one.Tito did talk crap on Randy Couture he said there's no way he's going to lose to some old man.Tito can't really say much now ,b/c Randy litterally spanked him. | thats not really talking shit though to me. i just think it was pre-fight confidence and im not a tito hater or fan. i dont like his mouth but i like to see him fight.
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08-09-2006, 02:08 PM
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I think this is a fight for the fans and to keep in shape. Iwould of rather seen Tito Forrest II but thats me. He has some time to fight the winner of Wandy/Chuck and who says he wont have to fight Babalu before that even. I don't know looks like he has to wait for what he wants.
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