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[NinjaShogunRua]

Originally Posted by BritneySpearsGuy

alright, where would you guys rank Mike "Quick" Swick, Nate Quarry and Chris Leben at 185?? I think the way I ranked them is reasonable.

You guys would probably not even rank them in the top 10 and follow MMA rankings of websites

I just follow reality. What top 10 fighters have Leben, Quarry, or Swick beaten?

Last time Leben fought a top 10 fighter(Silva) he got KTFO. Last and only time Quarry fought a top 10 fighter(Franklin) he got KTFO. Swick hasn't beaten any top 10 fighters. Why do you rank these guys so highly? Normal people don't make rankings solely on POTENTIAL, they rank them on accomplishments and what they've done lately.

Ok, enough feeding the troll, I'm done.

[BritneySpearsGuy]

Originally Posted by NinjaShogunRua

I just follow reality. What top 10 fighters have Leben, Quarry, or Swick beaten?

Last time Leben fought a top 10 fighter(Silva) he got KTFO. Last and only time Quarry fought a top 10 fighter(Franklin) he got KTFO. Swick hasn't beaten any top 10 fighters. Why do you rank these guys so highly? Normal people don't make rankings solely on POTENTIAL, they rank them on accomplishments and what they've done lately.

Ok, enough feeding the troll, I'm done.

alright, this is about potential. I assume that you would bet that whenever one of these 3 guys fight a top fighter of their weight class, they will lose. Swick got a quick submission over Joe Riggs. I believe Riggs was a top 10.

Nate Quarry lost to Rich Franklin. So what. He lost to the best fighter at 185.

Chris Leben will get wins over top 10 fighters. He's still learning

[Hypergit]

Originally Posted by BritneySpearsGuy

actually, I think Swick is the best of the three, followed by Quarry then Leben.

Nate Quarry learns very quickly. He trains with Team Quest which has some of the best coaches

I absolutely agree that Swick is the best of the three, but I think others could benefit from hearing your reasoning/evidence for Nate and Leben's improvement - you said "These guys keep getting better." I think you are right, but I don't think we can persuade anyone without elaboration.

git.

[BritneySpearsGuy]

Originally Posted by Hypergit

I absolutely agree that Swick is the best of the three, but I think others could benefit from hearing your reasoning/evidence for Nate and Leben's improvement - you said "These guys keep getting better." I think you are right, but I don't think we can persuade anyone without elaboration.

git.

those guys replying to my thread about this are going to bet that Swick will lose to Loiseau if they fight. Loiseau is a top 185 pounder. Swick getting a quick submission/KO will prove them wrong.

I hope Quarry and Leben get to fight another top 10 soon. I'm sure they will both get a win in their next fights.

[Jellsnacks]

nate quarry=Failure
thank you very much
have a good night

[Hypergit]

Originally Posted by BritneySpearsGuy

those guys replying to my thread about this are going to bet that Swick will lose to Loiseau if they fight. Loiseau is a top 185 pounder. Swick getting a quick submission/KO will prove them wrong.

assorted ramblings.

Originally Posted by BritneySpearsGuy

I hope Quarry and Leben get to fight another top 10 soon. I'm sure they will both get a win in their next fights.

Why so sure? That is what I have asked twice now. I know how skilled you can be at articulating and substanciating your opinions, and that skill is what the non-believers need whether they know it or not.

c'mon man, together we can enlighten the delluded Henderson, Franklin, Silva, Bisping etc fans.

git.

[CHUCKtheCHAMP]

Originally Posted by BritneySpearsGuy

i am being reasonable. At 185, Swick should be ranked #2, Nate Quarry should be ranked around #5, and Chris Leben at about #10. These guys keep getting better.

I already made a thread about Mike "Quick" Swick of why I would rank him at #2. Nate Quarry and Chris Leben will be up there in the top 10 soon

NONE OF THESE GUYS SHOULD BE TOP 10.. FOR THE SOLE REASON THAT THEY HAVE NEVER EVEN BEATEN A TOP 10 FIGHTER.... SWICK BEAT RIGGS.. BY A QUICK SUBB.. WHICK REALLY DOESNT SHOW ANY SKILL ON SWICKS SIDE IT JUST SHOWS A LACK OF ON RIGGS'S SIDE... AHHH FUCK THIS SHIT!!!!

YOUR A MMA TROLL!!! IF I EVER MET YOU I WOULD BREAK YOUR TROLL ASS!!

[MMAPIMP]

Originally Posted by Jellsnacks

nate quarry=Failure
thank you very much
have a good night

nate isnt a failure he just wasnt redy to fight for a title he had good matches that he won then when he got put into a title matche it just looked like that he was just not ready.if your gonna call nate a failure for losing a title fight you can say the same thing bout crocop and he isnt a no failure

[BritneySpearsGuy]

Originally Posted by MMAPIMP

nate isnt a failure he just wasnt redy to fight for a title he had good matches that he won then when he got put into a title matche it just looked like that he was just not ready.if your gonna call nate a failure for losing a title fight you can say the same thing bout crocop and he isnt a no failure

good point. I think that Nate is ready for a fight against somone like Anderson Silva. This would be a great fight. Nate Quarry saw what Anderson Silva did to Leben. He can learn from that

[NinjaShogunRua]

Originally Posted by MMAPIMP

nate isnt a failure he just wasnt redy to fight for a title he had good matches that he won then when he got put into a title matche it just looked like that he was just not ready.if your gonna call nate a failure for losing a title fight you can say the same thing bout crocop and he isnt a no failure

I can definitely agree with that. Nate is a 8-2 fighter with some solid victories. He was sent in to the wolves with his fight vs Franklin. Nate definitely has alot of potential. Cro Cop has more proven wins than Quarry though, but I see the point you are making.