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Old 08-10-2006, 06:34 PM   #21 (permalink)
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All this would do is feed into Matts legacy. The first fight was a joke if they do it again it would be even weaker .
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so no one thinsk that Royce can beat Matt?

I dont wanna see this fight personally, I think Matts wrestling is too good and Royce's standup isnt good enough but I dont think for one second that Royce cant beat him. Especially if hes coming off a loss from GSP.
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If they do a rematch then it needs to be on the undercard of another big fight. I personally feel the same way for this fight as i did the last. Royce has an outside chance to submit Matt but matt is the overwhelming favorite. Royce will not quit or tap he proved that again last fight. Let him fight some other WW's and MW's. He still has alot of good fights left in him he is just not the dominant fighter he used to be. I would like to see him fight again.

I agree that Royce has an outside chance to submit matt. Ken Shamrock has an outside chance to beat Ortiz too but I'm definitely never gonna say that on one of these threads because it sounds like I think it could probably happen. Matt would have to make a VERY STUPID mistake to lose this fight. Don't get me wrong, I love Royce as a fighter. Gracie Jui-Jitsu has basically started what is MMA today. And I agree that he won't quit or tap out. But, think about their fight. Matt had a very secure submission on Royce and it was clear that he wasn't gonna tap. I've read where matt said he heard his arm pop three times and he decided to just let the sub. go and try something else. Its just not smart for Royce to try and be competing at this level. If he is to continue fighting, he should at least drop his level of competition. I definitely don't wanna see Royce suffering damage such as a broken arm, which definitely could've happened in the last fight. Hopefully, Matt will be the bigger man and just turn the fight down. Sorry Royce, I just don't wanna see you get hurt.
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so no one thinsk that Royce can beat Matt?

I dont wanna see this fight personally, I think Matts wrestling is too good and Royce's standup isnt good enough but I dont think for one second that Royce cant beat him. Especially if hes coming off a loss from GSP.
If he can pull guard or achieve guard after they hit the mat, yes. If Hughes takes him down into side mount again, probably not but I would love to see Royce get the win this time.
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so no one thinsk that Royce can beat Matt?

I dont wanna see this fight personally, I think Matts wrestling is too good and Royce's standup isnt good enough but I dont think for one second that Royce cant beat him. Especially if hes coming off a loss from GSP.
Royce's stand up is good enough.I had him winning the fight untill it hit the ground.Neither was doing a whole lot ,but Royce dictated the pace with leg kicks.
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i think royce could pull it out....but hughes is a very dominant fighter...i would love to see him get submitted but its a long shot...we'll see what happens i guess
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There is no way Royce can standup and win this fight...impossible.....
This is just going to turn into another Tito/Shamrock game, where the legend keeps getting his ass fed to him, by the younger, better fighter.
Although, I do believe Royce has a better chance of beating Hughes, than Shamrock does with Tito
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Nobody wants Royce to start being thought of as a Ken Shamrock.
After reading that interview, I think he is already in the same ballpark as Sham. Almost every answer he gave reeked of arrogance and dellusion. Funny how the vast majority of martial arts practicioners were happy and grateful to learn from him, but he still seems insistant that bjj is the -only- ground game. And how he dares to say he will not fight any 'losers' when his recent record is shit... lol.

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After reading that interview, I think he is already in the same ballpark as Sham. Almost every answer he gave reeked of arrogance and dellusion. Funny how the vast majority of martial arts practicioners were happy and grateful to learn from him, but he still seems insistant that bjj is the -only- ground game. And how he dares to say he will not fight any 'losers' when his recent record is shit... lol.

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His reasonings for losing are just as delusional as kens. "I overtrained" is not an answer for the ass kicking he got.
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His reasonings for losing are just as delusional as kens. "I overtrained" is not an answer for the ass kicking he got.

He is as delusional as Shamrock. And he's very arrogant. He didn't even train with any top-notch wrestling guys. I for one have no interest in paying for or seeing for free another awful lopsided beatdown.
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