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08-10-2006, 09:08 PM
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Even though I'm a Silvia hater I just can't picture anyone taking the title off him any time soon mostly because there's no above average wresterls in the heavyweight division in fact i think the only heavyweight that could beat tim at the moment is fedor but then again i could also picture tito ortiz or maybe just maybe i think even matt hughes could beat him despite the weight advantage anyon agree ?
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08-10-2006, 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by killerinstinct Monson really doesn't have a chance.He's too small for HW he should go back to 205.Everytime he tries to go for a take down he's going to eat a jab.The reach is just WAY too much for him.We've seen Sylvia utilize his reach against guys much bigger than Monson.I mean Monson is only 5'8 and he hasn't faced a good striker in long while for god's sakes!It's like Matt Boone says.Chuck was able to beat him with just leg kicks.Cruz was able toi give him lots of trouble with nothing ,but a weak jab and leg kicks.Tim Sylvia will offer up more than a weak jab and leg kicks.Sylvia will win this fight without much trouble.I don't see Monson being able to get inside Sylvia's punches to take him down. | took the words right outta my mouth. I personally think there are going to be alot of sad Tim haters for some time. While Vera is the best option currently in the UFC to take the belt, i still think it would be a bad matchup for Vera and he would have to fight an almost perfect fight to beat Tim.(If they fought tommorow. Cant predict how much Vera will improve. everyone knows he has almost unlimited potenial.) Honestly i think Vera would be best served to drop down to LHW. Until Dana throws Tim in there with a top Pride guy I just dont seeing him losing.
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08-10-2006, 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by up_n_comer Even though I'm a Silvia hater I just can't picture anyone taking the title off him any time soon mostly because there's no above average wresterls in the heavyweight division in fact i think the only heavyweight that could beat tim at the moment is fedor but then again i could also picture tito ortiz or maybe just maybe i think even matt hughes could beat him despite the weight advantage anyon agree ? | Fedor is definitely not the only HW that can beat Tim.
Mark Hunt can punch his bizarre facial hair off
Cro Cop can decapitate him with the left leg
Aleksander Emelianenko could stomp him
Mark Coleman could GnP a decision or a TKO
Sergei Kharitonov would fuck him up
Barnett would flatten him, GnP or submit him
Big Nog would run a BJJ clinic on it, and probably outbox him.
AA with a strong game plan, sharp mentality, and no injuries could do it again
hughes weighs about 190 w/o losing fight weight. tim sylvia fights about 265. never happen man. Tito would get stomped too, he walks about 220.
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08-10-2006, 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by AJL416AZ Fedor is definitely not the only HW that can beat Tim.
Mark Hunt can punch his bizarre facial hair off
Cro Cop can decapitate him with the left leg
Aleksander Emelianenko could stomp him
Mark Coleman could GnP a decision or a TKO
Sergei Kharitonov would fuck him up
Barnett would flatten him, GnP or submit him
Big Nog would run a BJJ clinic on it, and probably outbox him.
AA with a strong game plan, sharp mentality, and no injuries could do it again
hughes weighs about 190 w/o losing fight weight. tim sylvia fights about 265. never happen man. Tito would get stomped too, he walks about 220. | While your last two sentences make alot of sense the rest just seems to be a bit of Tim hating.(side note if weight was not an issue Hughes and Tim would never fight MFS guys dont fight each other) Now back to the issue at hand your little list, now i do agree saying Fedor is the only HW that can beat Tim is a completely false statement. I think Tim would be a big dog fighting Fedor and Cro Cop not saying that he wouldnt have atleast a "puncher's" chance but he would be a big dog. Ive already said i think Hunt/Sylvia would be the best slugfest any of us had ever seen, a toss up in my mind. Barnett and Coleman would only have a chance if it went to the ground.(This is where the ring to cage factor would play in) Big Nog is one of my Fav fighters but there is no way he is out boxing/striking Sylvia. As far as Aleksander and Sergei go, this is were it becomes obvious u are jus hating cause they aint on the same level right now. And because the his last two fights dont think i have to comment on the AA one.
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08-11-2006, 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by TheBonger While your last two sentences make alot of sense the rest just seems to be a bit of Tim hating.(side note if weight was not an issue Hughes and Tim would never fight MFS guys dont fight each other) Now back to the issue at hand your little list, now i do agree saying Fedor is the only HW that can beat Tim is a completely false statement. I think Tim would be a big dog fighting Fedor and Cro Cop not saying that he wouldnt have atleast a "puncher's" chance but he would be a big dog. Ive already said i think Hunt/Sylvia would be the best slugfest any of us had ever seen, a toss up in my mind. Barnett and Coleman would only have a chance if it went to the ground.(This is where the ring to cage factor would play in) Big Nog is one of my Fav fighters but there is no way he is out boxing/striking Sylvia. As far as Aleksander and Sergei go, this is were it becomes obvious u are jus hating cause they aint on the same level right now. And because the his last two fights dont think i have to comment on the AA one. |
Honestly, Big Nog would be very capable of outboxing Sylvia. I think all of the afformentioned fighters would molest Sylvia.
Cro Cop via leg kicks and then punches once Sylvia crumbled from the leg kicks, you have to remember AA almost dropped Syvia with the inside leg kicks, obviously Cro Cop's kicks are much more devistating.
Fedor is Fedor, win via a plethora of ways.
Hunt has never been KO'ed and hits harder than Sylvia.
I think you greatly underestimate Barnett, he has defeated Semmy Schilt x2 via armbar and Gan McGee via tko, I think he would make pretty quick work of Sylvia, that counterpunching gamaplan would not work against the aggression of Barnett.
The other matches would be questionable but Alaks would probably lay Tim out and Coleman would be able to GNP Sylvia to a decision victory.
I am certainly a Tim hater and I guess I just always picture him getting squashed in all of his matches, it hasn't worked out well for me lately but the future looks bright.
Anyone catch the Blind Date episode with him on there? The woman got him drunk and dissed him because he was drinking female drinks like flavored martini's, it was pretty funny and unexpected that he was so shy around the ladies.
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08-11-2006, 03:23 AM
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Originally Posted by killerinstinct Monson really doesn't have a chance.He's too small for HW he should go back to 205.Everytime he tries to go for a take down he's going to eat a jab.The reach is just WAY too much for him.We've seen Sylvia utilize his reach against guys much bigger than Monson.I mean Monson is only 5'8 and he hasn't faced a good striker in long while for god's sakes!It's like Matt Boone says.Chuck was able to beat him with just leg kicks.Cruz was able toi give him lots of trouble with nothing ,but a weak jab and leg kicks.Tim Sylvia will offer up more than a weak jab and leg kicks.Sylvia will win this fight without much trouble.I don't see Monson being able to get inside Sylvia's punches to take him down. | Im going to have to go with Killer on this one.
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08-11-2006, 05:32 AM
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Monson is a stud, but fighting Silvia should be interesting, he has a HUGE height and reach advantage. If he can keep his jab in Monsons face to prevent the takedown, he can win. Do I want Monson to win, damn right I do, but I will not bash Tim anymore. He beat AA twice, wanted to continue in a fight with a snapped arm, etc, etc. For some reason people just do not want to give him credit, and I include myself in that.
As fas as Mir v Vera, Vera should win, but lets say Mir win, does that make him a number one contender, HELL NO, anyone who has seen Mirs two return fights know this! The UFC would be better off with giving AA another rematch. That being said Vera will roll, so it won't matter. When this happens, hopefully Mir will go 'back to the drawing board', take things seriously, get in shape, and return to his old form. If that happens everyone wins.
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08-11-2006, 06:41 AM
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gotta agree, the top 5 pridr hw's would eat up tim the tool, but saying that i cant see him losing any time soon, their just isn't any competition at that division in the ufc. and i hope mir gets back into shape, he could be really good.
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08-11-2006, 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by TheBonger for being a pussy against AA? You do realize the main objective is too win the fight right? He had a good gameplan, executed it and won. As far as Monson taking him down, I will believe that when i see it. | This sport is MMA, not boxing. Sylvia was smart, but made a boring match for the fans, and this sport is where it is because of the fans. Sylvia knew if he went toe to toe with AA he would get caught again, so he used his reach and jabbed and stayed away from the possibility of getting hit with a good shot again. He knew if AA drilled him that this time AA would finish, so Silvia made sure there would be no chance of that. Now AA should have been a little smarter and went for a take down, but I think he was expecting Sylvia to go toe to toe again. Either way, Sylvia is the champ and hopefully Monson will takehim down and TAP HIS ASS OUT.
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08-11-2006, 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by tj31atr I will not bash Tim anymore. He beat AA twice, wanted to continue in a fight with a snapped arm, etc, etc. | just to beat a dead horse...
1st win vs AA was sheer luck. 2nd win I am convinced was due to AA's injury - fair enough though he did beat AA twice.
and a fresh horse...
He didn't even notice his arm was broken (two totally snapped bones too).
I have broken various bones during contact sports over a dozen times, and although I wanted to continue sometimes with a broken finger or nose etc, I noticed every one of them despite the adrenaline. Especially the bad breaks. Sylvia is also known to be partial to drug use. Oh, but only so he could get a six-pack he says...
Due to these reasons and many others including his attitude and skill, I will still be bashing Tim.
Monson will submit him imo.
git.
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