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[WandAXE]

Originally Posted by TheBonger

if they fought right now anywhere doesnt matter Cage,Ring, or a fucking backyard brawl, Chuck knocks Rampage the fuck out. Sorry but its true. Chuck has became a much better fighter while Rampage is obviously on the decline. By the way would Tito still fuck up Wandy?

No way Chuck gave Ram his best shots and couldnt hurt him . Chuck would still loose. As for Wand and Tito thats stupid, did you see the first fight ? It could have gone either way . Now Wand by ko. Stick to swingin of UFC nuts .

[dagreat1]

Originally Posted by Tystick357

So you are using the excuse that he is better than he was then?

I'm just joking since you used that against Liddell, I think Wandy would beat Tito.

Read my post man, it's #2 on this page, where exactly dos it say Chuck has not gotten any better since 03 or his loss to Rampage?

[Tystick357]

Well you said that Pro Chuck people would use the fact that the fight was in 2002 as an excuse that he would do better now, which is a good excuse.

In no way did Tito "fuck up Wandy" but he did beat him. Then you talked about the sport evolving, meaning fighters evolve and get better, so I just saw you using that defense for Wanderlei and not seeing it being used for Chuck.

It's no big deal, maybe I'm perceiving your posts wrong.

[dagreat1]

Originally Posted by Tystick357

Well you said that Pro Chuck people would use the fact that the fight was in 2002 as an excuse that he would do better now, which is a good excuse.

In no way did Tito "fuck up Wandy" but he did beat him. Then you talked about the sport evolving, meaning fighters evolve and get better, so I just saw you using that defense for Wanderlei and not seeing it being used for Chuck.

It's no big deal, maybe I'm perceiving your posts wrong.

Yes Chuck is better now but the excuse is ridiculous, how is it that Chuck would be better now than he was in 03 and yet rampage is the same fighter or as TheBonger says, is on a "decline"?

That was the point I was trying to get at, most Chuck fans make that excuse constantly and it is not validated for reasons I already stated regarding Rampage and his supposed "decline".

[WandAXE]

Originally Posted by dagreat1

Yes Chuck is better now but the excuse is ridiculous, how is it that Chuck would be better now than he was in 03 and yet rampage is the same fighter or as TheBonger says, is on a "decline"?

Rampage has never really been a great fighter he wins and looses I think his style is just a rare form that doesnt match up with Chucks , therefore Chuck just cant do much to him.

[Tystick357]

Originally Posted by dagreat1

Yes Chuck is better now but the excuse is ridiculous, how is it that Chuck would be better now than he was in 03 and yet rampage is the same fighter or as TheBonger says, is on a "decline"?

That was the point I was trying to get at, most Chuck fans make that excuse constantly and it is not validated for reasons I already stated regarding Rampage and his supposed "decline".

Well I believe all fighters get better, both Q&C, and if they fought again it could possibly be a different outcome.

Hell, if Silva/Liddell does fall through UFC should at least try to get ahold of QJ for the rematch.

EDIT-But Tito in the UFC and them training probably complicates it.

[LefthookStcrook]

Chuck would rip through rampage in nomore then three ufc rounds

[TheBonger]

Originally Posted by dagreat1

Pro Chuck fanatic.

It's OK man, I know Chuck is your father but relax.

Funny how you claim Rampage is on the decline when he defeated Randleman, Bustamante,Illoukhine, Liddell then lost to Silva (after pummeling Chuck for 2 rounds). This is where you claim his career has "declined" he defeated Minowa, then Arona (#2 ranked LHW in the world, don't kid yourself), then another loss the Silva (#1 ranked LHW in the world, not opinion actual fact), then defeated Ninja, then lost to Shougun (top ranked LHW, would dominate UFC and make Chcuk his bag boy), then defeats Yokoi, then defeated Dong Sik Yoon (UNANIMOUS decision but your defense will be he's an 0-3 fighter and he mounted Rampage, so that nullifies Rampages win right?) and most recently Lindland (Lindland is a great wrestler, he made the fight boring as everyone expected and Rampage still pulled out the decision, unanimous IMO as rd. 3 was clearly Rampage, the gilluotine did not finish the fight, no pointes shouls be awarded for a choke that fails).

So somewhere in ther his career declined as after he beat Chuck senseless for 2 rounds he lost to the best LHW in the world, then he lost again to the best LHW in the world, then defeated the #2 LHW in the world, then lost to a top 5 LHW in the world so how exactly is that a decline?

Please elaborate.

lol. Yes chuck is defiently my father, thats why i have nothing better to do then respond to this nonsense. Seems pretty obvious to me that your problem is not with Chuck but with UFC. You seem to one of these guys who would say that any Pride fighter is better then and UFC fighter but thats getting alittle of topic. So you think Rampage is still the same caliber fighter he was three years ago? I think most people would disagree, most people seem to think that him finding Jesus is what changed him as a fighter, personally i think it was Wandy kneeing him the fuck outta the ring. And while Rampage may have won the fight with Yong Dong Sik but he did not win convincingly. He won a close decision that could have went either way. Then Lindland moves up in weight to fight him and Jackson wins a controversial decision. So you i would say he has had some decline. While its kinda a pointless agruement with Rampage in WFA makin his money and Chuck running shit in UFC, its very unlikely we will see them fight again and if we do it would be sometime down the road. I guess you would make the agruement also that Rampages career has gone better then Chucks since 03? Anyway you can hate all you want and I do appreciate you using my name some much in all your posts, that makes me feel warm and fuzzy on the inside.