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[Ubermensch]

Originally Posted by bowflexbod

I think people seem to mix up the terms "fake" and "pre-determined outcome".While WWE is by no means a sport,because you can not have
a sport when the end result is pre determined before the match starts,but
many people forget that these wrestlers for the most part competed in legit
college athletics before entering the "entertainment industry" of pro wrestling,and Lesnar and Kurt Engle are perfect examples,and Engle even
won an Olympic Gold Medal with a broken neck in 1996.They also take their
lumps in the ring,with many of them sidelined with broken bones,torn legimits,etc.,so I think with the right people to train them,and the right mindset with it at least half of these "entertainers" could easily become more then able to adjust to a legit form of fighting.

So using this kind of reasoning I could say that Stunt men should become MMA Fighters because of thier athletic prowless and because many of them have trained in acrobatics and some martial arts... P.S. Stunts are "Fake" too. Yet not a sport. remember I said "Fake Sport"

Again it is comparing apples to televisons. Not the same beast. You could be the best high jumper in the world but that doesn't mean you are going to be any good in the NBA. The reasoning is the same.

[TapOut27]

Originally Posted by Ubermensch

So using this kind of reasoning I could say that Stunt men should become MMA Fighters because of thier athletic prowless and because many of them have trained in acrobatics and some martial arts... P.S. Stunts are "Fake" too. Yet not a sport. remember I said "Fake Sport"

Again it is comparing apples to televisons. Not the same beast. You could be the best high jumper in the world but that doesn't mean you are going to be any good in the NBA. The reasoning is the same.

Any athlete with good-correct training can compete if they are focused. They might not be the best fighter. Pro Wrestlers are just as much atheletes as MMA fighters, soccer players, football players...the list goes on. All it comes down to is heart, strength and technique. Training can do wonders for anyone. Need help losing weight, get a personal trainer, and boom start to see results.

[Ubermensch]

Originally Posted by TapOut27

Any athlete with good-correct training can compete if they are focused. They might not be the best fighter. Pro Wrestlers are just as much atheletes as MMA fighters, soccer players, football players...the list goes on. All it comes down to is heart, strength and technique. Training can do wonders for anyone. Need help losing weight, get a personal trainer, and boom start to see results.

Not true! I wish it was but it is not. You can have all the training and heart in the world but not many men could lift the amount of weight Mariusz Pudzianowski does. Physiology does play a role you know. Idealisticly however you are right and it will do wonders in alot of cases it will put you over the edge, but if you don't have that much of an edge tuff. Why did he fail at Football because he couldn't cut it he didn't have what it takes to be a football player. He probably had all the heart in the world. Great collegate wrestler but OH Well!!!....If he does well I will be the first to give him Kudos Okay....Oh by the way I still say NO Pro Wreslers are not Atheletes they are stuntmen who can't act which some happen to be ex-atheletes.

[Primo]

To The Guy That said Shamrock was a Fighter b4 a wrestler, That's actually incorrect. Shamrock was training to be a wrestler in the late 80's when he discovered martial arts and then made the switch. He was actually wrestling small "independent" wrestling shows while training for MMA. Just wanted to clear that up.

As far as Lesner goes. Horrible pro wrestler with a horrible attitude towards the pro wrestling business. Great amateur wrestler but no Kurt Angle! He should be training with the Miletich camp instead of Gracie if he plans on entering K-1.

[Primo]

Secondly, If you think pro wrestlers aren't athletes then your a complete moron. I would love to see anyone who says that get in a pro wrestling ring and give it a try. If you haven't then you have no right saying there not athletes and should shutup. That's there passion in life and they put there bodies and lives on the line for it just as much as any other pro athlete does for there sport. Just because it doesn't float your boat doesn't mean you have to disrespect it. To each there own! There's a reason why Shamrock went on record to saying he was more injured and beat up in a couple years of pro wrestling then any amount of time he's been in MMA. It's no different then pro golfers or bowlers or anything else devoting there life to what they love. Atleast Lesner has a set of balls big enough to give NFL and MMA and whatever else he decides to try a go. When are we gonna see all you "bashers" step out from hiding behind your computers and get into a ring or an octagon??

[Kemo]

I think Brock Lesnar vs. Ed Herman would be fun to watch.

[TapOut27]

Originally Posted by Ubermensch

Not true! I wish it was but it is not. You can have all the training and heart in the world but not many men could lift the amount of weight Mariusz Pudzianowski does. Physiology does play a role you know. Idealisticly however you are right and it will do wonders in alot of cases it will put you over the edge, but if you don't have that much of an edge tuff. Why did he fail at Football because he couldn't cut it he didn't have what it takes to be a football player. He probably had all the heart in the world. Great collegate wrestler but OH Well!!!....If he does well I will be the first to give him Kudos Okay....Oh by the way I still say NO Pro Wreslers are not Atheletes they are stuntmen who can't act which some happen to be ex-atheletes.

Didnt really disprove my argument. Brock didnt have the right training or heart to stay into football after 9 years of not playing the sport. I also was not arguing about peoples physiology, as royce gracie proved you can be small and still win.
And Pro-wrestlers are athletes, they are usually in top physical condition, they throw each other around, take punishment, get nicks and bruises. The only differences is that their stuff is scripted, it still takes tons of physical effort to do what they do. I mean, the are suppurb athletes in some cases.

[killerinstinct]

Originally Posted by Kemo

I think Brock Lesnar vs. Ed Herman would be fun to watch.

There wouldn't be much of a weight difference really.

[MMAPIMP]

mrock lesner vs fedor ...brock by f5

is he training with royce or mfs or both

[LebenTysonTank]

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Again it is comparing apples to televisons. Not the same beast. You could be the best high jumper in the world but that doesn't mean you are going to be any good in the NBA. The reasoning is the same.[/QUOTE]

Yeah that analogy is almost as good as comapring the UFC as the High School sweetheart or whatever the fuck.Not just pro wrestler he was NCAA champ and is physically a beast....how does this not register as a potential threat? Please take your Hater helmet off and watch what happens.